What if Hillary and Obama were on the same ticket (Hillary as VP)?
What if Hillary and Obama were on the same ticket (Hillary as VP)?
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No not at all, just using an extreme example of how much I don't want McCain in the White house. The comparission wasn't against Bush at all but against McCain who I feel is very extreme. Certainly in no way like the Nazi's but shock value always helps to make your stance clear on things.Originally Posted by Phil D.
McCain is the wrong person for this country and I feel will further drive a wedge through our relations with other countries which isn't something we can afford right now.
I'm a Republican, and I can agree with that.
The GOP is like an old sports team that decided to exclude itself from draft picks over the past decade...and now have nothing but out-dated veterans that can't run our country anymore.
Just a few years ago, the Dems were in the same position, with no real leaders. Although I think Obama's ok, the Dems aren't much better of still.
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One of the morning news programs said something similar about the GOP choices. They said something to the effect that McCain was like the kid who was picked last in gym class, that the best kids got picked first and that this is what was left. Nothing like being the best of the worst...
It's like Survivor, where good folks that are a threat get voted off early.
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That would be bad for the Democrats, and, the Republicans would have a field day, both, Obama & Clinton have attacked the hell out of each other, & I think this comment ensured that a Obama/Clinton will not work.
I am sure people remember that pairing the #1 & #2 candidates does not always ensure victory, look what happened in 2004 when Kerry & Edwards were paired together."His entire campaign is based on one speech he gave at an anti-war rally in 2002," Clinton said. "I give him credit for making the speech, but his speech was not followed up with action, which is the pattern we have seen repeatedly -- a lot of talk no action. We have one speech in 2002 versus a record of accomplishment and a record of action."
Clinton also said she and likely Republican nominee Sen. John McCain both had experience to put forth, but Obama only had a speech.
"Now I think you will be able to imagine many things Sen. McCain will be able to say. He has never been the president. He will put forth his experience. I will put forth my experience. Sen. Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually,
run out of other people’s money.” - Margaret Thatcher
McCain could be the perfect person we need right now, McCain has been known to work with Democrats, unlike either Clinton or Obama.
McCain is tough on defense & is actually being realistic about the events in Iraq.
Out of the 3, McCain is actually tougher on illegal immagration, Obama pissed me off when he said he wants to give Drivers License to illegal aliens.
On the International front, we need a tough leader to deal with the likes of Chavez, Kim Jong Il, & Ahmadinejad.
“The problem with socialism is that you eventually,
run out of other people’s money.” - Margaret Thatcher
Really? I feel like McCain has been the least controversial candidate in the race. He's a friggin' old man who doesn't look to be in the greatest health...I'd be amazed if he lived out his term if elected. :)
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All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control.
I trust you are not in too much distress. —Captain Eric Moody, British Airways Flight 9
Agreed. However, McCain is likely to push the idea of military offensives against these guys. I feel that he would do this despite the fact that our country can't afford it. We need a diplomatic solution - it's cheaper, more likely to succeed and will also score the US major respect points in the global community (allies and foes). Obama is the only candidate who has clearly and repeatedly expressed a desire to do this. We need a tough leader, but we need one who will be tough with words before pulling out the guns.
Greets,
-Omar S.
Unlike when there were 5 Republicans battling it out amongst themselves, I think the two Democrats going head to head this late in the game is actually a good thing for their party.
For the Republicans, having all those guys meant that they were fighting intenrally and not spending enough time going up against the actual opponents...the Democrats.
On the flip side, aside from winning the primaries, I think McCain gets very little media coverage in terms of his views. The Dems are getting all the attention, and we all know the complete ins and outs of both Obama's and Hillary's platform.
As for McCain, as we even see in this thread, there is much that is not so clear about the man in terms of what he would do in office.
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Bush popular with conservatives? You got to be kidding me, right?
Let's see...National security conservatives hate him because he proposed giving illegals amnesty. Not to mention they hate the way he has run the Iraq war. Neoconservatives hate him because of the way he bungled up the Iraq war, making them look so bad. Fiscal conservatives hate him because of our massive deficit and him not really caring about maintaining a balanced budget. Social conservatives? Jury is still out there. I wouldn't be surprised if they were against him because of his sheer incompetence and the fact that he really hasn't done a hell of a lot to forward their cause.
Phil summed it up best: GOP being an old sports team that forgoes their draft picks. I used to be a registered Republican and more on the conservative side. I de-registered a few months ago because I really hated what Bush did to the party and none of the candidates, save Giuliani, really inspired or interested me. Believe it or not, the last straw for me was when the DOT was clueless on how to handle air transport congestion because it showed that the Bush Administration has no foresight on how to fix a problem in the future. They're totally clueless and they're going back to past methods that never worked to begin with. Anyways, now the GOP is choosing McCain. While he may be considered a "maverick", he's still 73 years old! This party needs new blood not the same old faces.
As for McCain being tough on illegal immigration, ummm...didn't he support Bush's amnesty push?
He would have been perfect in 2000 and I was hoping he would have got the nomination then instead of Bush, but Bush got it and we're in a big mess now. McCain is simply past his time now...
And, not for the first time. Bob Dole seemed like a cadaver.
T
"Keep 'em Flying"
Thats exactly why she won.
The problem here is that she cannot pick up the delegates necessary to win the rest of the way - so that means she has to try to change the rules retroactively to make Michigan and Florida count - (not a problem for a Clinton of course...) or rig all the super-delegates - contrary to the popular vote and even the normal delegate apportion customs.
Either way she will have effectively "stolen" the nomination. If that happens - and she cannot get Obama as her VP and (maybe) even if she does, many Democrats (Obama supporters) will sit on their hands on election day, and McCain will win the General Election.
Tom
"Keep 'em Flying"
McCain - for better or worse - will do whatever it takes to prevent Iran from obtaining Nuclear weapons.
Since I do not know what JinJad and the Mulahs would do with nukes, its very hard to say if McCain would save America from catastrophe by pre-empting Iran militarily, or lead us into catastrophe by allowing them to continue. And there's no guarantee to say its this is not true on both ends, as nice as it would be to think otherwise.
Stakes are high..thats for sure. :(
"Keep 'em Flying"
Its a very long shot.
Arguably Hillary does not benefit from this arrangement as easily as Obama might if he were VP (as being younger & more easily able to run again [as sitting VP] after 8 years.)
Also, politically, Obama would draw more voters to a Hillary ticket (younger voters, blacks etc.) that might not vote otherwise, whereas Hillary only offers Obama voters another VP candidate would get him anyway, while she has a very high negative side that stimulates the GOP base to vote against her as well as some independents.
Tom
"Keep 'em Flying"
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