New A.net upload terms Photogs need to read

[T-Bird76]

You may want to read the following regarding A.nets NEW upload terms. Their new terms allow them to use and sell your pictures without any credit or royalty to you. Let the uploader beware.

Subject to your right to terminate your license to us as described in Section 5(C), you hereby grant Airliners.net an irrevocable, perpetual, worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use, reproduce, modify, transmit, distribute, publicly perform and display (including in each case by means of a digital audio and video transmission), advertise in, on, and around, and create derivative works of the Content you submit or make available for inclusion on or through the Service, and to incorporate such Content into other works in any form, media, or technology now known or later developed, for purposes such as (but not limited to) promoting the Site or promoting the availability of such Content on the Site.

You also hereby waive any moral rights you may have under the laws of any jurisdiction in Content you submit or make available on or through the Service. While it is our general policy to include your name alongside your Content, we are not obligated to do so.

[flyboy 28]

That's f'in ridiculous.

[Administrator]

Before we get started here, keep the expression of your opinions here civil, no matter how angry anything pertaining to Anet might maker you. There are to be no blanket anti-Anet statements, no profanity, or name calling.

Voice your thoughts about this change, if you'd like, in a mature manner, please. I just don't want this to get out of control.

-Phil

[PhilDernerJr]

This really does concern me. They said that they will explain more on Monday, so I'll avoid any reactions until then.

I wonder what their plans are.

[lijk604]

I wonder what kind of backlash this will have. Heck, I only have 35 pics there, which if pulled off the site would be nothing, but if some of their "power" users were to not agree to this and pull their pics...WOW!

It was only a matter of time, Johan was in it for the love of aviation. Demand Media, as we now see, is in it for the money.

[Derf]

I do not care what they "explain" it is layed out there what the deal is PERIOD. According to this, they can use or sell your images to the media or any other sources. They can say anything like (NOT A QUOTE FROM ANET) "we only are using it for the website and not other media...but then can LEGALLY sell your image of an aircraft to the media. If a plane crashes and you took a pic, they can do whatever they want with it LEGALLY. Imagine seeing your images in a book of the best airliners.net images or on every TV after a plane you photographed crashed.

WOW, Jetphotos will soon pass Anet as the main Aviation website because the professionals will not have that!

This is gonna get good!

[Midnight Mike]

Oh wow! Talk about losing control of your photos.... Johan would have never came up with that idea

[NIKV69]

Their new terms allow them to use and sell your pictures without any credit or royalty to you. Let the uploader beware.

As Tim DeGroot alluded too in the thread Chris started I doubt this is the case. I will wait until DM clarifies it.

WOW, Jetphotos will soon pass Anet as the main Aviation website because the professionals will not have that!

I know that has been the feeling since DM bought anet but I doubt it. I also doubt you will all be pulling your pictures from there come Monday but as Phil stated it would be better to wait for clarification early next week.

[MarkLawrence]

I agree with Nick and Phil - I'm waiting for the clarification from DM on this.

[T-Bird76]

I think its pretty clear based on the email that A.net just sent out. That reads the same way as what Chris posted. After March 8th if Demand Media wants to use your shots in a revenue generating nature they can without your knowledge or permission. How that is not clear to anyone is beyond me...

[Derf]

I agree with Tom, they can say what they want, but if they make a very large book with the best of Anet and sell it, You can do nothing....reguardless of what they clarify.

[cancidas]

that came as a shock to me, and if they're sticking to this policy then i'm going to want my pictures off. there is no way i'm going to agree to forfeit my copyright just to have my shots up there! [/angry]

(sigh)
i want to know more, waiting for monday to come around....

[Midnight Mike]

Went to airliners.net & many people seem to be shocked as well, the Photo Screeners/Moderator are asking for patience, but, seems that they are equally in the dark....

This posting was interesting:

So, let me get this straight...

You don't have a problem letting Demand Media...

Use...
Reproduce...
Modify...
Transmit...
Distribute...
Publicly display or...
Advertise in, on, or around one of your photos...

All while not being able to guarantee that they will give you credit for the photo?

Sure, wait till more information is passed on, but, it does not sound good & I am the one that usually tells everybody to relax......

[nwafan20]

I got that email as well and read it. This is completely ridiculous!

I, too will wait for DM to clarify, but if their clarification does not satisfy me, I will take my photos off that site, even though I don't have that many. I will also encourage all of the A.net photographers to do the same thing as well.

But still, we should not jump too quickly to any conclusions without the clarification.

[pgengler]

I'm not really sure what they could say in a clarification that would make this any better, except to say "Oops, those aren't the real terms, what we meant to say was..." because with terms like that, it doesn't matter much how they say "we probably won't do that," the fact is that the terms are a lot more binding than that 'promise' would be.