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    Democratic debates on 21-January

    Here are 2 clips from the debates:

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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    Oh boy you just can see she wanted to jump across the stage and lay him out! LOLOL Now come on boys and girls your going to tell me this isn't better then the SuperBowl? This is the best form of entertainment around!

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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    You had to love Hillary's facial expressions the whole debate. Get that chip off your shoulder Hillary, jesus. The Dems are too funny. Their race has degraded to bickering like children and pointing fingers at Bubba. What a mess.
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    I'll say one thing Obama didn't do a great job at defending or coming back at her. You could hear the breaks in his voice, either from being unsure of himself or so frustrated with her he lost his cool. In any event I'd give that exchange to Hillary.

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    I disagree, Tommy. I think that he handled it quite well, and though he may have come across as frustrated, he made it quite clear that Hillary's intention is not to discuss the issues, but to smear him. He backed himself up wonderfully I thought. I have new respect for him now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    I'll say one thing Obama didn't do a great job at defending or coming back at her. You could hear the breaks in his voice, either from being unsure of himself or so frustrated with her he lost his cool. In any event I'd give that exchange to Hillary.
    Not that it matters, but, John Edwards came off looking pretty good.

    As for Obama, I think he finally brought the problem of Bill Clinton to the front stage & you may actually see Bill Clinton take a step back....
    "Well, I can't tell who I'm running against sometimes," Obama countered.
    Clinton made a huge mistake & gave Obama a chance to explain the "present" vote by quoting an example which Obama was able to explain away, huge mistake on Clinton's part. Edwards jumped right & said that if Obama can explain the reason for his votes, why can't they, perfect timing on John Edwards.

    For the life of me, I can not figure out why don't Edwards & Obama challenge Clinton on her experience claims.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D.
    I disagree, Tommy. I think that he handled it quite well, and though he may have come across as frustrated, he made it quite clear that Hillary's intention is not to discuss the issues, but to smear him. He backed himself up wonderfully I thought. I have new respect for him now.
    Phil watch it again...Clinton's attack was sharp and precise, Obama's response was weak, indecisive and the breaks in his voice were deverstating. I'm not saying I don't like him, in the Dem camp he's my choice but I think he could have been more polished with his response. The case for her attack was weak but the way she carried it out was much better then how he responded. I didn't pay to much attention to Edwards....he's done IMO.

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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Mike
    Not that it matters, but, John Edwards came off looking pretty good.
    John Edwards is a hell of a politician. You have to be to get rich the way he did :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Mike
    For the life of me, I can not figure out why don't Edwards & Obama challenge Clinton on her experience claims.......
    Because Clinton's experience claims are hurting her, even if they are true. Obama's lack of experience is helping him by implication, so why bring it up and give Clinton a chance to fire back?

    What really pissed me off about this debate is that the Republicans can't come up with anyone to challenge these clowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam613

    What really pissed me off about this debate is that the Republicans can't come up with anyone to challenge these clowns.
    Much toooooo early, wait until the Republicans lighten the load to 2 or 3 candidates. The Republicans had a strong field of players this year, while the Democrats have only had 3 strong candidates, while the Republicans have had about 5 strong choices.

    After Florida, may see 1 or 2 Republican candidates bow out, then it will get really interesting....
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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Mike
    Quote Originally Posted by adam613

    What really pissed me off about this debate is that the Republicans can't come up with anyone to challenge these clowns.
    Much toooooo early, wait until the Republicans lighten the load to 2 or 3 candidates. The Republicans had a strong field of players this year, while the Democrats have only had 3 strong candidates, while the Republicans have had about 5 strong choices.

    After Florida, may see 1 or 2 Republican candidates bow out, then it will get really interesting....
    Mike the GOP isn't doing anything this year....McCain is to extreme, Romeny is to Morman, and Rudy will be out of it soon. His plan of waiting until Super Tuesday isn't going to pay off, you needed to be in this thing from the start, plus his never ending 9/11 speech is growing old. If McCain has a strong pull on Super Tuesday I'd wager he's going to get the GOP nomination. In the end on Nov 7th I see it being Clinton with over 50% of the vote to McCain's 30% something percent.

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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    Here are the latest polls in Florida

    McCain - 23.3
    Giuliani - 20.0
    Romney - 19.3
    Huckabee - 16.0
    Thompson - 8.3
    Paul - 5.5

    Clinton - 48.8
    Obama - 29.8
    Edwards - 11.3

    (Average was taken from various polls)
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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    Romney is going to surpass Rudy down there, that's for sure. If Rudy places third his first time out of the gate basically he might as well pack it up. The problem with Rudy is he's not running on his record of cleaning up the city but just the few months after 9/11.

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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Romney is going to surpass Rudy down there, that's for sure. If Rudy places third his first time out of the gate basically he might as well pack it up. The problem with Rudy is he's not running on his record of cleaning up the city but just the few months after 9/11.
    Rudy will finish 1 or 2, any lower than that, & he is toast....

    With attention being drawn to economy, Romney has a chance to actually win, Would be an interesting combo if Rudy & Romney were to form a ticket....

    After Florida, expect the herd to dwindle down to a 3 man race, my guess is
    that it will be (McCain, Rudy, & Romney). Out of those 3 names, expect 2 to unite....

    Thompson is done, & the Huckabee wave will come to a slowdown....
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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    The problem with Rudy is he's not running on his record of cleaning up the city but just the few months after 9/11.
    Great point. In his book "Leadership" he writes about all his experiences from his days as mayor fixing what everyone said was unfixable, managing things everyone said were unmanageable. He talks about his days as a US Attorney, hired by Ronald Reagan...the mafia these days the Italian mafia is a pale image of what it was 20 years ago, due in large part to the work of Giuliani. I think voters would be very receptive of these stories in a time where many sectors of our government seem unmanageable and out of control. Instead, he endlessly recounts his 9/11 stories, and hearing about this guy running down Broadway with a dust mask for the 5000th time doesn't help Joe Smith make his mortgage payment.
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    Re: Democratic debates on 21-January

    Seeing Rudy flail the way he is almost hurts. I do think he had great potential, but his 9/11 train is running out of steam. I'm sick of it myself.

    Mike, I have to agree with others when they say that the GOP has no good players this year. Nine candidates and no one that truly has potential.

    From the looks of it, Hillary will be winning it. Man, that hurts to say.

    Is it too late to register as a Democrat to vote for Obama int he primary? :(
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