Dubai Intl

[Alex T]

If you are one of the lucky ones to be hired by EK and be based in Dubai, your covered.

They oay for everything, your housing and such, all you cover is food I believe, and the pay reasonably well, amazing staff and benefits but the training is intense and just wow.

I would love to be a Flight Attendent for EK but I think Ill stick with Southwest for now :-P

Alex

[Informant]

If you are one of the lucky ones to be hired by EK and be based in Dubai, your covered.

They oay for everything, your housing and such, all you cover is food I believe, and the pay reasonably well, amazing staff and benefits but the training is intense and just wow.

I would love to be a Flight Attendent for EK but I think Ill stick with Southwest for now Razz

That's not so true. EK pilots have been complaining due to problems with scheduling, and management, typically here in the US a pilot will fly 65-75 hours in a month while at EK they are pushing 85-95 hours.
Pilots feel its no longer an airline that they want to grow in and are leaving.
They don't hire RJ pilots either so just because you have 4,000 hours in a CRJ don't expect to be flying with them. PLus there is no Pilot union as they are illegal in the UAE.

All pilots are based in Dubai, and the company expects you to live there, so you can't commute from London the night before your 2 week trip to Melbourne via Singapore.

As for the pay and benefits, the private schooling for your children isn't covered 100% there is still a balance that must come out of your pocket, and the more kids you have, the more money you put out, and the bigger your apartment will have to be, and I believe(not 100% sure on this) that EK provides a 2 bedroom apartment.

[Matt Molnar]

Thanks for the insight, Informant. Welcome to the boards.

[Informant]

Its what I do

[bonanzabucks]

If you guys want to know about what it's like working for Emirates, I'd check out the pprune.org Middle East forums. There are a lot of posts there by Emirates staff. Most of what I've read is really negative -- both about living in Dubai and working for the airline.

As for Dubai itself, it seems to be getting a lot of really good press these days. It seems to me that the media are really pushing Dubai because they're so desperate to see a Middle Eastern success story. I've never been there before (and it's probably not a good idea for me to go because of my last name), but I have some friends who have lived there and it's not all glamorous or wonderful as it's made out to be. Here's a link about living there.

http://uaereport.homeblock.com/

From what my friends tell me, it's pretty true. Especially the part about meeting women. Unless you're into Filipino girls, the Mid East is an awful place to meet a mate.

[HALCYON]

Hi guyz!

With regards to the topic, i.e. a tonne of gates at DXB, all I can tell you is that the next tonne of gates to be delivered (still under construction) are already desperately needed right now... and that at this very moment, they should be adding tonnes of gates more for future growth.

With regards to comments about Dubai itself:

-> True, every place has its pros and cons:
- Dubai is well-known for money-laundering. I think it is true. And I also think that terrorist connections with Dubai may have been true in the past.
- Traffic is becoming horrendous. True.
Having said that, with all it's challenges, I still love Dubai, because I think that at the end of the day it's still a great place to work and live in.

Regarding Emirates cockpit crew:

-> What someone wrote about pilots at Emirates is a blatant big fat lie and, very often, what is written on pprune.org is just posted out of greed:
- Emirates pilots work up to a maximum of 900 flying hours a year.
- If you are married and with children, you can either opt for a very generous accommodation allowance, or else live in company provided accommodation, which by the way, consists of (VERY) nice villas, often with a swimming pool and a tennis court within the unit plus other facilities within the compound as standard, in leafy Dubai neighbourhoods (Jumeirah, Satwa, etc.).
- Children's school fees paid by Emirates to cockpit crew are very close to 100%.
- If you are single, or married without children, you can either opt for a very generous accommodation allowance or a company-provided 2-bedroomed apartment with gym and other facilities within the building, again, in some of the best neighbourhoods of Dubai.
- I know for a fact that a pilot now at Emirates passed from regional jets at Independence Air to Emirates' heavies.
- Singapore-Melbourne IS NOT A 2-WEEK TRIP. As a minimum, you get a rest day before the trip, then a 24-hour layover in Singapore, 18 hours' layover in Melbourne, another 24-hout layover in Singapore, followed by a rest day upon arrival back in Dubai.

It is true that there is only one base: Dubai.

It is true that unions are illegal in Dubai.

However, I must say that a large number of Emirates pilots give a very bad name to the company and to the rest of the pilots in the company, as they are the most arrogant, rude, downright inconsiderate and selfish that I have ever come across.

I hope that I have helped clarifying some misunderstandings and misconceptions.

Happy Days,

HALCYON

[HALCYON]

I believe that the report to which a link was posted above, pretty much gives a complete and true picture of the challenges that the UAE still needs to face and overcome. Fast.

I must also add that some issues which I consider important, such as human rights and others, were not mentioned in the said report.

At the end of the day, certain things are what you make out of them. With regards to others, yes, it's true - there's a lot of opportunities for improvement.



Halcyon

[Nycfly75]

Welcome HALCYON!

HALCYON is a good source of Dubai info...after all he is a good friend of mine so I can vouch for him!!!

[HALCYON]

Thanks

HALCYON

[Midnight Mike]

Hi guyz!

It is true that there is only one base: Dubai.

It is true that unions are illegal in Dubai.

However, I must say that a large number of Emirates pilots give a very bad name to the company and to the rest of the pilots in the company, as they are the most arrogant, rude, downright inconsiderate and selfish that I have ever come across.

I hope that I have helped clarifying some misunderstandings and misconceptions.

Happy Days,

HALCYON

Yeah, do not believe everything that you read on Prune.org.

One thing that the pilots do not like at Emirates is the Senority list, there really isn't any, so, some months you get your bid request, some months you do not. Pilots live & die by their senority number....

Also, the way they bid trip awards, it is really not condusive for the commuter & to repeat what others have said, you must live there.

Pilots going to Dubai are good to go for a couple of years, until the spouse goes nuts & the kids grow up, after that the family is ready to go & the pilot is put in a difficult situation....

Everything has their props & cons, for some reason in the media, Emirates/Dubai is the media darling, just thought to be fair, we should know what the cons are.....