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    Music piracy crackdown nets college kids

    05/13/2007

    At first, Sarah Barg thought the e-mail was a scam.

    Some group called the Recording Industry Association of America was accusing the University of Nebraska-Lincoln sophomore of illegally downloading 381 songs using the school's computer network and a program called Ares.

    The letter said she might be sued but offered her the chance to settle out of court.

    Barg couldn't imagine anyone expected her to pay $3,000 — $7.87 per song — for some 1980s ballads and Spice Girls tunes she downloaded for laughs in her dorm room. Besides, the 20-year-old had friends who had downloaded thousands of songs without repercussion.

    "Obviously I knew it was illegal, but no one got in trouble for it," Barg said.

    But Barg's perspective changed quickly that Thursday in March, when she called student legal services and found out the e-mail was no joke and that she had a pricey decision to make.

    Barg is one of 61 students at UNL and hundreds at more than 60 college campuses across the country who have received letters from the recording industry group, threatening a lawsuit if they don't settle out of court.

    "Any student on any campus in the country who is illegally downloading music may receive one of these letters in the coming months," said Jenni Engebretsen, an RIAA spokeswoman.

    Barg's parents paid the $3,000 settlement. Without their help, "I don't know what I would have done. I'm only 20 years old," she said.

    At least 500 university students nationwide have paid settlements to avoid being sued, Engebretsen said. Students who don't take the offer face lawsuits — and minimum damages of $750 for each copyrighted recording shared if they lose.

    UNL officials have been told 32 more letters are on the way. At least 17 UNL students who did not take the settlement offer have been sued, according to the RIAA, although the university has been asked to forward only five subpoenas.

    But the students coughing up the cash question why they're the ones getting in trouble.

    "They're targeting the worst people," UNL freshman Andrew Johnson, who also settled for $3,000. "Legally, it probably makes sense, because we don't have the money to fight."

    Johnson got his e-mail in February, with the recording industry group's first wave of letters targeting college students. He had downloaded 100 songs on a program called LimeWire using the university network.

    The money to settle came from the 18-year-old's college fund. He'll work three jobs this summer to pay back the money.

    Johnson compares what he did to people driving 5 miles per hour over the speed limit.

    "It's not like I downloaded millions of songs and sold them to people," Johnson said.

    But just one song can bring a lawsuit, Engebretsen said.

    "It is important to send the message that this is illegal, you can be caught, and there are consequences," she said.

    The industry realizes attitudes need changing, and money from the settlements is reinvested in educational programs schools and other groups can use to spread the word that song sharing can have severe consequences.

    Some of the programs are tailored to start with third-graders.

    "We do recognize that by the time students reach college, many of their music habits are already formed," Engebretsen said.

    Earlier this month, members of Congress sent a letter to officials from 19 universities, including UNL, asking for information about schools' anti-piracy policies.

    According to the letter, more than half of college students download copyrighted music and movies. The information requested is intended to help assess whether Congress needs to advance legislation to ensure illegal downloading "is no longer commonly associated with student life on some U.S. campuses," the letter says.

    Barg is still angry about her letter from the recording industry group, which she calls bullying. But she agrees sharing music is common, and that other students don't understand the consequences.

    "Technically, I'm guilty. I just think it's ridiculous, the way they're going about it," Barg said. "We have to find a way to adjust our legal policy to take into account this new technology, and so far, they're not doing a very good job."

    Barg thinks the university should send an e-mail to all students, warning them that the recording industry won't look the other way.

    As campus clears out for the summer, UNL officials are considering launching a new educational campaign in the fall.

    "If we can do anything to help educate students about what illegal file-sharing is, we're willing and interested in doing that," said Kelly Bartling, a university spokeswoman.

    Bartling said no one wants students to have to worry about how to pay tuition because of an expensive settlement. "It is a hugely expensive lesson," Bartling said.

    Johnson, the UNL freshman, doesn't think the threats from the recording industry group are going to solve the problem. Friends who know he got in trouble still share music online.

    "People are still going to do it until they get caught, and they can't catch everyone," Johnson said.
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    Interesting....

    Targeting college students sends a loud message, since a lot of the people who download music are college students who can't afford these settlements. If enough of these letters are sent out it will turn into a "this could happen to me" sentiment among college students, and many may stop downloading.

    It's somewhat unfair of the RIAA to be charging people almost $8 a song, especially since most are available on iTunes for $.99, but I understand the punitive nature of charging $7.87; otherwise there would be no risk in illegally downloading music.

    If they are going to start cracking down on people, they should be going after everybody, not just a specific group of people.

    Personally, I'm on a government network the majority of the time, and all those file sharing programs are blocked, everything is monitored by the Comm Squadron, and there are pretty strict Terms of Agreement to follow, so most people don't mess around with that stuff anyway.

    Moral of the story? Sounds like if you are going to download music, DON'T share it. I don't think the RIAA can catch people downloading music, the way they are caught is by sharing it on open networks.

    Also, quick question... Where does the illegality come into play in downloading/sharing? Like is it legal to download music for personal use, but illegal to share it, or is it illegal to do both?

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    Quote Originally Posted by USAF Pilot 07
    Moral of the story? Sounds like if you are going to download music, DON'T share it. I don't think the RIAA can catch people downloading music, the way they are caught is by sharing it on open networks.
    Bingo. The way they track you down is by downloading songs themselves, then tracking the IP address they got it from.

    Quote Originally Posted by USAF Pilot 07
    Also, quick question... Where does the illegality come into play in downloading/sharing? Like is it legal to download music for personal use, but illegal to share it, or is it illegal to do both?
    This is the murky area. Technically, it is ok to rip songs off a CD and make many copies for yourself as long as it's for "personal use." Even if that were illegal, I don't see how it can be enforced. What they don't want you to do is share music or sell it and make a profit off of it. Many downloaded songs from legitimate sources come with DRM licenses attached, preventing them from being copied onto a CD or MP3 player, or moved onto another computer, which many people find inconvenient and annoying. However, there is software that can rip the licenses off. Doing so is illegal, but if you are only doing it for "personal use," then that's where the tricky part is.
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    The RIAA have sued people both for sharing and for downloading. Both are illegal.
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    Just curious, but what are the laws regarding using someone's IP address for suing them? I know that the IP address is always public, but isn't it illegal for a 3rd party to use it for legal or commercial purposes?

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    vinyl still sounds better!
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