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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    Quote Originally Posted by wunaladreamin
    Now my question is...How many of you are rendering HDR in PS and how many are rendering using Photomatix?
    I was using Photoshop, and recently found Photomatix. I think Photomatix is a little easier to rend with.

    Here are 2 recent HDR's from Bayport Aerodrome.




    and one from East Islip.

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    The East Islip one is stunning.
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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    Quote Originally Posted by wunaladreamin
    Anytime. Remember, HDR is not necessarily about making a picture come out oober perfect. It's about how artistic can one get. Pm me if you have anymore questions. :D
    I am sorry to correct you but this statement is 180 degrees from the truth
    HDR is all about getting the image Oober perfect, it allows you to capture all the data with no black and no white, all values that can be altered. It will make an image with a high dynamic range and low contrast.

    Proccessing the HDR to make it artsy is the second step called tone mapping, and this will allow you to make the image fall to a low contrast black and white or so much tone mapping and color that it can look like a cartoon. The tone mapping is what most people think HDR is but it simply is not true. HDR is High Dynamic Range shot.... Think of it as a massive histogram and the image has LOTS MORE DATA.

    I hope this helps
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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    I use photomatix


    Here are some examples

    Inside an aircraft you can not expose as it is too dark.... then HDR come
    into play


    With just the camera, you can not expose dark christmas tree needles and a
    light...the light would be completly overexposed...here you can see the
    glass! I could have went further but did not want the overprocessed tone
    mapping look


    The moon was way to bright here and I needed to hold the moonlight black...Processed way to far in tone mapping give it a cartoonish look, I like it still


    Holding back you can see the posibilites....similar to dodge and burn on PS, the clouds look alive.... This was only HDR and tone mapping


    When the light does not work for you....carry your own or post process....hdr gives you LOTS of info to process!!!!


    You can also to make reflections pop, check out the nose




    Well, that is just a few and they do not come close to showing what is possible. Since HDR I have been shooting into the sun with a smile and one burnt eyeball......Hope that is just me!
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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    A question about the shots involving people; obviously it is not possible to take multiple pictures at different exposures because the people will move around. How do you go about those ones? Play with the exposures in Photoshop, create copies then combine? Would it be better if those shots were in RAW to get the exposures right?
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    I really do not have much to say as you answered your own questions correctly....

    the girl shot was 3 Jpegs, I have in the past use 1 jpeg and while grainy
    after making one dark and one light, you are able to tone map, but it is not
    really an HDR. If you use RAW, you can get +2 stops and -2 stops with no
    problem at all. Lots of people do 1 shot raw HDR's. For late night I usually
    do many shots...... like 7 or 9 shot HDR's using JPEG. With those, I take
    shots that people say are not possible. I just do it to see the look on their
    face when they do see it! :lol:

    With an aircraft that is moving, 1 shot will usually capture all the data I
    need, then I can separate and HDR. I have used all three methods (even if
    splitting a JPG is not really HDR). I use all three methods, different method
    for the type of shot.

    You got it so far from what you said...NOW IT IS TIME TO PLAY!


    Beware of over and underexposed areas....HDR you NEED all the data.
    1 shot HDR from 1 JPG that there was slight over exposed and the plane was
    very dark! Looks good the the sky is good for nothing!!!

    eWWWWWW
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    Quote Originally Posted by Derf
    You got it so far from what you said...NOW IT IS TIME TO PLAY!
    I've finally started playing. I can't believe it took me so long...

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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    So a touch off topic but who is the girl on the rock? :borat:
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    no idea....she saw me taking pictures and started asking questions. She has seen my website online and knew of me. She was thrilled when I asked if I could take her picture. I sent her a copy.

    I think she wanted me to do another shoot of her but have not had the time so I did not offer.
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrummanFan
    Quote Originally Posted by Derf
    You got it so far from what you said...NOW IT IS TIME TO PLAY!
    I've finally started playing. I can't believe it took me so long...

    I like the shot but it seems a bit dark. I notice that many of the night shots you have been doing are a bit dark. If it is your style, thats cool...but if you are just doing the same thing I did, this may help.

    1. When you are taking a picture at night and it has any lights showing, you will need to overexpose the shot, the camera can not meter at night while looking into a light and will almost always underexpose (execptions only due to massive lighting where it' is not really a night shot)

    2. Never use your LCD at night to "TELL YOU" if you got the shot, your eyes are completly f'in usless as you are looking into a bright picture with fully dialated eyes. I screwed up so many pictures early in night shots becuause it looked good. I still from time to time really muff it up!

    If that shot were lighter, I could see that sky about 2 stops brighter...
    Ahhhh....wait, Let me photoshop yours really quick so you can see it pop.....

    Ahhhhh, Some may like, some may hate, but it is all personal preference.

    I love the train shots and would be CRAZY in HDR's, The PAA DC-8 shot at the Cradle...soo jealous! Looking forward to seeing what you take next! BTW, what building was that?
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    Heres a shot from my trip to SFO , taken from the Bayfront Park area.

    HDR


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    Wow, I love the detail in the white lights..... WELL DONE! The HDR and non hdr look the same, under detail, the HDR has lots more info... Where the hell is that?
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    Looks like SFO along the Bay looking towards SFO Intl

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    Re: HDR, anyone else play?

    Quote Originally Posted by lijk604
    Looks like SFO along the Bay looking towards SFO Intl
    Yep, right next to bike path near the Marriot.
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