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    Rep. Rangel Will Seek to Reinstate Draft

    Sunday, November 19, 2006; 4:11 PM

    WASHINGTON -- Americans would have to sign up for a new military draft after turning 18 if the incoming chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee has his way.

    Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., said Sunday he sees his idea as a way to deter politicians from launching wars and to bolster U.S. troop levels insufficient to cover potential future action in Iran, North Korea and Iraq.

    "There's no question in my mind that this president and this administration would never have invaded Iraq, especially on the flimsy evidence that was presented to the Congress, if indeed we had a draft and members of Congress and the administration thought that their kids from their communities would be placed in harm's way," Rangel said.

    Rangel, a veteran of the Korean War who has unsuccessfully sponsored legislation on conscription in the past, said he will propose a measure early next year.

    In 2003, he proposed a measure covering people age 18 to 26. This year, he offered a plan to mandate military service for men and women between age 18 and 42; it went nowhere in the Republican-led Congress.

    Democrats will control the House and Senate come January because of their victories in the Nov. 7 election.

    At a time when some lawmakers are urging the military to send more troops to Iraq, "I don't see how anyone can support the war and not support the draft," said Rangel, who also proposed a draft in January 2003, before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican who is a colonel in the U.S. Air Force Standby Reserve, said he agreed that the U.S. does not have enough people in the military.

    "I think we can do this with an all-voluntary service, all-voluntary Army, Air Force, Marine Corps and Navy. And if we can't, then we'll look for some other option," said Graham, who is assigned as a reserve judge to the Air Force Court of Criminal Appeals.

    Rangel, the next chairman of the House tax-writing committee, said he worried the military was being strained by its overseas commitments.

    "If we're going to challenge Iran and challenge North Korea and then, as some people have asked, to send more troops to Iraq, we can't do that without a draft," Rangel said.

    He said having a draft would not necessarily mean everyone called to duty would have to serve. Instead, "young people (would) commit themselves to a couple of years in service to this great republic, whether it's our seaports, our airports, in schools, in hospitals," with a promise of educational benefits at the end of service.

    Graham said he believes the all-voluntary military "represents the country pretty well in terms of ethnic makeup, economic background."

    Repeated polls have shown that about seven in 10 Americans oppose reinstatement of the draft and officials say they do not expect to restart conscription.

    Outgoing Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld told Congress in June 2005 that "there isn't a chance in the world that the draft will be brought back."

    Yet the prospect of the long global fight against terrorism and the continuing U.S. commitment to stabilizing Iraq have kept the idea in the public's mind.

    The military drafted conscripts during the Civil War, both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. An agency independent of the Defense Department, the Selective Service System trains, keeps an updated registry of men age 18-25 _ now about 16 million _ from which to supply untrained draftees that would supplement the professional all-volunteer armed forces.

    Rangel and Graham appeared on "Face the Nation" on CBS.
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    Charlie Rangel is a senile old ass. In a way I'd like to see this go through just to see the reactions of all the enlightened kids who promised a Democratic Congress would save the country when they find out they have to sign up for the draft. Of course this will never happen...it makes no sense militarily, and the Democrats would simply guarantee another Republican winning the White House in '08.
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    Um, we already signed up for the Draft - if you're a male over 18, I'm sure you have your Selective Service card lying around somewhere. National Service isn't such a bad idea - lots of European countries (Germany and Sweden come to mind) have it, and if managed properly, with the right system of exemptions for post-secondary educational achievement, could finally become the national job training program that we need.

    The point, though, is not to reinstate an active draft or any sort of mandatory military service, but to highlight that a disproportionate number of soldiers on the front lines of an ill-conceived war are coming from places like Charlie Rangel's district (essentially Manhattan above 96th), where the military serves as one of the only opportunities for job training and upward mobility.

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    I found it hysterical how Rangel said a draft will help prevent the volunteering minority from being the only people to fight wars.

    As if rich white people won't be able to pay their way out of the draft.

    A draft iwll only get more minorities involved in the war, if that who his interests are for. Anyone remember Vietnam?

    Though a draft wouldn't work, I'm not so bothered by it. I ain't no Senator's son.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateo
    Um, we already signed up for the Draft - if you're a male over 18, I'm sure you have your Selective Service card lying around somewhere. National Service isn't such a bad idea - lots of European countries (Germany and Sweden come to mind) have it, and if managed properly, with the right system of exemptions for post-secondary educational achievement, could finally become the national job training program that we need.

    The point, though, is not to reinstate an active draft or any sort of mandatory military service, but to highlight that a disproportionate number of soldiers on the front lines of an ill-conceived war are coming from places like Charlie Rangel's district (essentially Manhattan above 96th), where the military serves as one of the only opportunities for job training and upward mobility.
    Nonsense, it is an all volunteer Military. People are in the military that want to be there, how much fairer can it get than that..

    And as for Rep Rangle, he is dead wrong, the people entering the military on average, have a higher education that people out of the military, look at the weapons systems that the kids are working on....
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    Unrelated, but I once saw Rangel on the Delta Shuttle with Moynihan. I felt like slapping him with the inflight magazine.
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