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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Cuomo!! OMG I'd rather vote for a diseased monkey! Have you heard this man speak? He's a fool!
    You're in luck, because given Al Pirro's impressive resume of sex partners, Cuomo's opponent likely has some sort of monkey disease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D.
    CORRECTION: I'm not voting for Cuomo because he went to my friend's high school. I'm voting for him because of the fun reaction I get from Tommy.

    As for Hillary, Tommy, Upstate has little to do with New York City. You are talking about people who having COMPLETELY different jobs, incomes, values and different lifestyles. There's a huge difference in the interest in what a subway-commuting graphic designer that works in a skyscraper and that of someone who owns a tackle shop in Saranac. Different views and different national goals among residents in the various areas of the state are the result.

    One a national level, Hillary might represent those needs of the upstaters amazingly. But that doesn't mean she represents me and what I would want my Senator to do.

    If her marriage is a farce then it's a shame that you'd support someone of such weak moral fiber, who cares more about her image than family values. Though presented with an opportunity, that doesn't mean you take it if it sacrifices her self-worth and perseverance as a woman.
    Phil why do you think someone living upstate has different views and different goals then someone living downstate? I think this is a fallacy as well spread based on the belief NYC is somehow higher then all. Upstate New York has issues with taxes, as does down state, upstate has issues with education, as does down state, and upstate has crime issues, as does down state. Local goals and concerns are going to be dramatically different but the overall concerns I just mentioned are certainly shared by Billy Bob in Buffalo and Bob Brooklyn.

    Did you support President Bush in the last election? He used drugs, abused liquor, and certainly didn't live the "Good Christian" lifestyle our leaders preach. Why Bill and Hillary got married isn't our business and nor should it be our business. The same people who ripped Bill apart for getting a hummer in the oval office were recently convicted for high crimes while in office. Yes I don't approve of what he did but he didn't commit any crimes that impacted his leadership ability (well until he lied). So it’s rather weak to say its ashame to support someone of such weak morale fiber when our own President isn't the most upstanding member of society. Hey we all have our baggage, there will never be the perfect candidate to vote for. I simply support someone who respects the people she serves.

    Oh btw wasn't this argument originally based on her carpetbagger?? You seemed to stray off of that which means I win, LOLOLOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Cuomo!! OMG I'd rather vote for a diseased monkey! Have you heard this man speak? He's a fool!
    You're in luck, because given Al Pirro's impressive resume of sex partners, Cuomo's opponent likely has some sort of monkey disease.
    Ok I don't understand how someone’s personal life has anything to do with their ability to make sound policy decisions? Let her bang the entire line up of the Jets for all I care, it’s her personal life! She has no obligation to you or me how she lives her life. Matt you’re getting caught up in the media firestorm! I'm voting for the diseased monkey!

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    [quote=T-Bird76]
    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    Quote Originally Posted by "T-Bird76":a5416
    Cuomo!! OMG I'd rather vote for a diseased monkey! Have you heard this man speak? He's a fool!
    You're in luck, because given Al Pirro's impressive resume of sex partners, Cuomo's opponent likely has some sort of monkey disease.
    Ok I don't understand how someone’s personal life has anything to do with their ability to make sound policy decisions? Let her bang the entire line up of the Jets for all I care, it’s her personal life! She has no obligation to you or me how she lives her life. Matt you’re getting caught up in the media firestorm! I'm voting for the diseased monkey![/quote:a5416]

    My post was really just meant to poke fun at her husband, but I'll bite.

    I really like Jeannine Pirro. She's been very successful in her legal career, she's attractive, and she's smart. But when it comes to her personal life she's like every other insecure two-bit-***** in the world, remaining in a very obviously loveless marriage simply because her husband is wealthy. Her husband is a convicted tax felon who makes no effort to act civilized despite the obvious negative impacts on his wife's political career. His actions make it seem that he almost enjoys seeing her suffer, with his repeated traffic violations, essentially admitting to the press that he cheats on her, and most recently, opening a can of worms suggesting that she's has been cheating on him with Bernard Kerik. It's almost as if he's on Cuomo's payroll. If she's willing to stay living with this lowlife just because he provides her with a comfortable lifestyle, what other compromises might she make when given the most powerful legal office in the state, with the potential for all sorts of new conflicts of interest?

    You argue that her personal life is her personal life, and that it has nothing to do with her professional abilities. For the sake of argument we can say that's true for a moment. But then you can look at the fact that she's being investigated by the FBI for plotting to wiretap her husband's boat to catch him cheating. This is clearly an illegal activity. She claims it is not. I would prefer our attorney general be familiar with and obey federal wiretap laws. There was also the somewhat credible allegation that she was pushing her Westchester ADA's to offer more lenient deals to defendants if they patronized Al Pirro's personal attorney.

    I'm pretty sure Cuomo is no better, he had some awfully nasty stuff going on when Clinton appointed him to direct HUD that the media conveniently forgets about. There was that press conference that his dad held back when he was governor where he denied the existence of "La Cosa Nostra." I guess we shouldn't expect to see AG Cuomo initiating many mob investigations.

    Maybe I'll just skip that part of the ballot now that I think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Phil why do you think someone living upstate has different views and different goals then someone living downstate? I think this is a fallacy as well spread based on the belief NYC is somehow higher then all. Upstate New York has issues with taxes, as does down state, upstate has issues with education, as does down state, and upstate has crime issues, as does down state. Local goals and concerns are going to be dramatically different but the overall concerns I just mentioned are certainly shared by Billy Bob in Buffalo and Bob Brooklyn.
    I know when I'm exercising my New York ego, and this isn't one of them.

    I'm surprised you'd think that we wouldn't have differnet thoughts and needs. The same way a perosn in San Francisco, Minnesota, Texas, Wyoming, Los Angeles and Miami all have different feelings, needs and views. One guy is looking out for his farm, one guy is looking out for his apartment building, the other concerned about roaming cattle while the other is worried about hurricane funding.

    The lifestyles between here and way upstate ARE very different. I'm shocked you don't see that.

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Did you support President Bush in the last election? He used drugs, abused liquor, and certainly didn't live the "Good Christian" lifestyle our leaders preach.
    I'm not looking for Christian lifestyle. I'm looking for family values. If George cheated on his wife or was a gold digger, he'd lose my vote jsut as fast.....unless he was a big advocate for relaxing gun ownership laws.

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Why Bill and Hillary got married isn't our business and nor should it be our business.
    They are our Kings and Queens in the US. Their lifestyle represents us. Though in other political offices I'd disagree, but when you're involved in Presedential office, you have an obligation to portray yourself in a way that best represents your country to your people and the rest of the world.

    We are not taken seriously because of two things: Our foreign policy and because MTV invaded the White House during the Clinton Administration.

    MAJOR politicians' private lives ARE our business. Not so much for people like Pirro, but she made it our business with the abuses involving her clandestine investigations of her husband's cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    The same people who ripped Bill apart for getting a hummer in the oval office were recently convicted for high crimes while in office.
    Let those who contradicted themselves in such a way face the same consequences they demanded of Clinton. I'm not going to stick up for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Yes I don't approve of what he did but he didn't commit any crimes that impacted his leadership ability (well until he lied).
    Leadership includes setting the example for your country socially as well as politically.

    While it might not have affected his ability to make Presidential decisions, it most certainly affected his leadership.

    [quote=T-Bird76]I simply support someone who respects the people she serves.

    Hillary promised to march in the Memorial Day parade this past year. Bloomberg, Padavan, Crowley, Schumer and almost every other local politician made it. We even had ****in Curtis Sliwa. Hillary bailed. She doesn't have much respect below the Westchester/Bronx line.

    Quote Originally Posted by "T-Bird76":4e39a
    Oh btw wasn't this argument originally based on her carpetbagger?? You seemed to stray off of that which means I win, LOLOLOL
    [/quote:4e39a]

    The carpetbagging involved her ANTI-feminist work that she and the feminists don't see that she's doing. The carpetbagging also was not the majority of the reason that she wasn't receiving my vote.

    She's also flip-flopped on the war a good 45,902 times. She should divorce Bill and marry Kerry or Vollaro (Sorry, Nick, couldn't resist).
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    [quote=GothamSpotter]
    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76
    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    Quote Originally Posted by "T-Bird76":bf708
    Cuomo!! OMG I'd rather vote for a diseased monkey! Have you heard this man speak? He's a fool!
    You're in luck, because given Al Pirro's impressive resume of sex partners, Cuomo's opponent likely has some sort of monkey disease.
    Ok I don't understand how someone’s personal life has anything to do with their ability to make sound policy decisions? Let her bang the entire line up of the Jets for all I care, it’s her personal life! She has no obligation to you or me how she lives her life. Matt you’re getting caught up in the media firestorm! I'm voting for the diseased monkey!
    My post was really just meant to poke fun at her husband, but I'll bite.

    I really like Jeannine Pirro. She's been very successful in her legal career, she's attractive, and she's smart. But when it comes to her personal life she's like every other insecure two-bit-***** in the world, remaining in a very obviously loveless marriage simply because her husband is wealthy. Her husband is a convicted tax felon who makes no effort to act civilized despite the obvious negative impacts on his wife's political career. His actions make it seem that he almost enjoys seeing her suffer, with his repeated traffic violations, essentially admitting to the press that he cheats on her, and most recently, opening a can of worms suggesting that she's has been cheating on him with Bernard Kerik. It's almost as if he's on Cuomo's payroll. If she's willing to stay living with this lowlife just because he provides her with a comfortable lifestyle, what other compromises might she make when given the most powerful legal office in the state, with the potential for all sorts of new conflicts of interest?

    You argue that her personal life is her personal life, and that it has nothing to do with her professional abilities. For the sake of argument we can say that's true for a moment. But then you can look at the fact that she's being investigated by the FBI for plotting to wiretap her husband's boat to catch him cheating. This is clearly an illegal activity. She claims it is not. I would prefer our attorney general be familiar with and obey federal wiretap laws. There was also the somewhat credible allegation that she was pushing her Westchester ADA's to offer more lenient deals to defendants if they patronized Al Pirro's personal attorney.

    I'm pretty sure Cuomo is no better, he had some awfully nasty stuff going on when Clinton appointed him to direct HUD that the media conveniently forgets about. There was that press conference that his dad held back when he was governor where he denied the existence of "La Cosa Nostra." I guess we shouldn't expect to see AG Cuomo initiating many mob investigations.

    Maybe I'll just skip that part of the ballot now that I think about it.[/quote:bf708]

    Pirro isn't clean by any means but really I could careless how many people she's slept with. I'll nominate Nick V as AG! LOL

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    Ok I've caste my vote and participated in this funny thing we call democracy. You might think I'm strange but it really means allot to me to vote, its things like that and even jury duty that remind me of the freedoms we have here and why it is so important to participate in our system.

    Even this debate is an example of the freedom we enjoy but many times take for granted. Phil and I can say what we feel about our elected officials and not think twice about it. Really when you think about it this is an amazing week. We take part in choosing our leaders and we also celebrate the men who fought to allow us to keep that right.

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    I voted. I left a couple sections blank, I made a notch or two in different columns, and I pulled a big red lever back to the left side and participated in something that my forefathers fought and died for.

    Regardless of how miniscule a role you think each vote might make, when only 35% of the public votes, every extra contribution does help.

    I will say that I was saddened by the people that worked at the booths.

    I walked inand said to the lady "Do you smell that? Smells like democracy." She replied in all seriousness witha concerned look on her face "I've been here all day and I don't smell anything."
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    Well, I just returned from voting in California, & yes, I voted for Arnold!

    People working there were quite nice, though one looked like a prison inmate.

    I was chatting it up with of the other gals & making them laugh, one girl said that I was cute & gave me two stickers, (that is what I get for putting my wallet in my front pocket!)

    But Phil, at the end of election day, those people are tired, so, they could have been just cranky.... :shock:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight Mike
    Well, I just returned from voting in California, & yes, I voted for Arnold!
    Wow, talk about a carpetbagger :D

    I voted this morning, before work. I vote nearly every election I can...federal, state, local, school budget, dog catcher

    I'm probably in the minority here, I typically vote primarily for Democratic party candidates, they tend to be closer to my point of view. But no matter who you vote for, it's important that you do vote. If you don't vote, I don't want to hear any whining about the way things are being run!

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bird76

    Every American needs to vote and voice their choice in leaders.
    Tommy, that is the worst thing that could happen at this point.

    Why on earth should uninformed people cast votes? How will that help this country?
    "Keep 'em Flying"

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    [quote=Tom_Turner]
    Quote Originally Posted by "T-Bird76":1961c

    Every American needs to vote and voice their choice in leaders.
    Tommy, that is the worst thing that could happen at this point.

    Why on earth should uninformed people cast votes? How will that help this country?[/quote:1961c]

    Tom American's aren't as stupid as we think.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDU-JFK

    My main beef with the system is with the presidential elections. THAT's when my vote truly doesn't count. New York will ALWAYS vote for the democrat for the presidential election, so my vote is thrown away.
    Didn't Ronald Reagan win New York State?

    Quote Originally Posted by RDU-JFK
    The electoral college does not work.
    On the contrary, it works exactly as it was intended to work. There's a reason we have 2 Senators from each state but a different number of House Reps based upon population.

    Quote Originally Posted by RDU-JFK
    My vote for Bush had no impact on his re-election in 2004.
    Yes, it is the system, and a neccesary trade-off in view of the greater good ....

    Quote Originally Posted by RDU-JFK
    Being a conservative in Brooklyn is frustrating because you have no political voice.
    Well, you are outvoted I suppose. What -- .. Not happy with Marty Markowitz and Charles Barron? LOL.... cheer up..if the lower east side elected Antonio Pagan after all those years, (yeah, he's long gone now I think..) anything is possible..

    Tom
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    [quote=T-Bird76][quote="Tom_Turner":28f13]
    Quote Originally Posted by "T-Bird76":28f13

    Every American needs to vote and voice their choice in leaders.
    Tommy, that is the worst thing that could happen at this point.

    Why on earth should uninformed people cast votes? How will that help this country?[/quote:28f13]

    Tom American's aren't as stupid as we think.....[/quote:28f13]

    I am not calling my fellow Americans stupid, but how will they vote in their best interests - or god forbid, the commonweal - (now theres a word we don't see everyday), if they're ill-informed.

    I could type all night [don't worry, I won't] about "rocking the vote" and "Making a Difference" but they're just slogans.

    Tom
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    I knew you'd pull out the vote aqui joke again...
    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    the extent of showing all was moving their bikinis over to show their vajajays, but only if you were sitting up close and had $$$ out. No Gucci, no coochie!

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