Singapore Airlines orders 20+ 787's

[Midnight Mike]

Wow, this is excellent news that I am waking up to!


http://boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q2/060614b_nr.html

"Boeing is delighted that Singapore Airlines (SIA) has announced its intention to purchase 20 Boeing 787-9 Dreamliners, with first delivery anticipated in 2011. Singapore Airlines has a long-standing and well-deserved reputation as one of the world's outstanding carriers.

[NIKV69]

This is great news! Congrats to Boeing and on a plane I think will be BIG!

[MORS-AB-ALTO]

Boeing is has definately been pummeling Airbus with the Dreamliner. The announcement of A380 production delays can't help things either.

[T-Bird76]

I see Airbus looking to new markets with the delay of the A350/370 whatever its being called now. This plane is simply going to come to market to late. The 787 will have proven its worth and if Airbus doesn't price the 787 for a steal they're going to have some problems. Airbus should be working on a replacement for the A320 series in advance of Boeing replacing the 737 series. Its like the old saying "you build a better mouse trap."

[Midnight Mike]

Wow, I haven't seen this much bad news since the Douglas days, when Douglas was having trouble with the MD11's & the MD90's

EADS shares in tailspin on Airbus delays By ANGELA CHARLTON, Associated Press Writer
14-June-2006

Shares of Airbus' parent company plummeted Wednesday after new delays in the delivery of the A380 superjumbo raised questions about the company's management and strategy.

The selloff came after Emirates Airlines said it is reconsidering its order of the double-decker A380, the world's largest passenger aircraft — exacerbating an already delicate situation for European Aeronautic Defense & Space Co. and its largest subsidiary.

Singapore Airlines and Qantas Airways, which also have large A380 orders, said they are seeking talks with Airbus and want compensation. Malaysia Airlines also was reviewing the terms of its agreement with Airbus to buy six A380s.

Singapore Airlines also delivered a second blow to Airbus by annoucing it will buy 20 Boeing 787-9 aircraft for $4.52 billion and take options on another 20 planes. Airbus had hoped the Asian airline would be one of the first and biggest customers for another new model, the A350, that would compete directly with Boeing's 787. But airline and leasing company dissatisfaction with the design of the A350 has led Airbus to consider a costly redesign of the plane, delaying its launch for several years.

EADS shares had lost more than a third of their value at one point before edging back up a bit, but they were still down almost 27 percent at 18.52 euros ($23.24) in afternoon trading. Market operator Euronext briefly suspended trading in the stock twice in the first hour after it fell beyond the limit allowed.

The Airbus troubles also dragged down BAE Systems PLC, which owns 20 percent of Airbus but has been seeking to sell its stake. BAE shares fell 3.2 percent to 337.75 pence ($6.22) on the London Stock Exchange.

Airbus announced late Tuesday that A380 deliveries could be delayed by up to seven months because of bottlenecks with the plane's electrical systems. It is the second time production of the A380 has been held up, with Airbus earlier pushing back the delivery date by six months.

Deliveries of the double-decker aircraft will likely be limited to nine in 2007, Airbus said, with an additional shortfall of five to nine A380 deliveries expected in 2008 and "around five" in 2009. It said the first delivery to Singapore Airlines was still expected by the end of the year.

"We're not happy with the delay, but our focus right now is working with Airbus to minimize the delay," said Singapore Airlines spokesman Stephen Forshaw.

It was the first carrier to buy the $300 million plane, ordering 10 with an option to purchase another 15. Forshaw said Singapore Airlines will still receive its first A380 this year, though delivery could be delayed by a few weeks.

On compensation, Forshaw said: "This is something we'll be working on in due course." He declined to disclose an amount or the time given to Airbus.

Emirates Airlines, which has 45 A380s on order, said it was told that delivery of its A380 would be delayed by six months and it now expects to receive its first one in October 2007, to be put into operation in January 2008.

"We are considering our position and will be engaging with the manufacturer over the next few weeks," the airline said in a statement.

Qantas Airways Ltd., which has ordered 12 of the new planes, had expected to receive two before the end of 2006.

"Our discussions with Airbus will center around the new delivery timetable, competitive issues, compensation and possible short-term replacement aircraft," Qantas Chief Executive Geoff Dixon said Wednesday.

Airbus' chief commercial officer, John Leahy, confirmed that the Toulouse, France-based company will incur more late delivery penalties, but declined to provide a figure. It could in theory also face order cancellations.

With the 555-passenger A380, Airbus wagered that the airline industry would increasingly offer large flights to international hubs. But rival Boeing Co. bet that air travel would be marked by the need for fuel efficiency and long-haul flights. It is building the smaller 787, which can carry 330 passengers.

"EADS made a strategic error by opting for a jumbo-sized jet rather than a fuel efficient model, especially if the price of oil increases further," said Matthieu Raimbault of French brokerage Viel Tradition.

The news is also a blow to EADS co-CEO Noel Forgeard, who in 2000 oversaw the launch of the A380 as the head of Airbus.

"We have now to find the right ways forward rather than finger pointing the responsibilities of the past," Forgeard said in a conference call, deflecting suggestions that the setback could cost him his job. "We are working on managerial measures inside Airbus."

Analyst Sash Tusa of investment bank Goldman Sachs called the delay "very damaging both to the credibility of EADS management, and also to Airbus' reputation for program management."

Some analysts have also suggested that BAE's position could be weakened by the news of further delays and it may get a lower price for its stake. EADS, which owns the other 80 percent of the company, has said it is interested in taking full control.

BAE, however, said it did not believe the delays would hurt the price it can get.

"We don't believe it will have any effect on the valuation of our stake because it has to be based on the medium- to long-term prospects of the overall Airbus business," BAE said. "The long-term prospects don't change because of the delay."

[MarkLawrence]

Ouch to Airbus!...GO Boeing!! - I wonder how this might affect 747-8 orders...can't remember the exact delivery timetable, but it might become a factor and starting with very few orders.

[Ari707]

I believe the only have orders for the 747-8 F no pax models yet and no 747-400 orders since 2002. so the wait should be to long to get one once production is up an running.
I get the feeling that the A380 might be one of those planes that will be plauged with problems it whole life...

[T-Bird76]

Anyone who thinks this news doesn't matter is smoking weed. The affect this has already had on their stock is huge!

[Midnight Mike]

The pain continues:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060614/ap_ ... nce_airbus

Airlines around the world punished Airbus on Wednesday for delays in the delivery of its A380 superjumbo, demanding compensation, reconsidering orders — and in one case, striking a major deal with its rival Boeing Co.

Shares in Airbus' parent company crashed and Boeing's soared as repercussions of the production problems with the world's biggest passenger plane resonated throughout the industry.

They also raised questions about the European planemaker's management and strategy, and the future of the double-decker A380. Boeing is staking its bets on a smaller, more fuel-efficient model.

Singapore Airlines, one of the world's top carriers and the first to buy the A380, said it was unhappy with the delays Airbus announced Tuesday. It demanded compensation and, on Wednesday, worsened the blow by announcing it would buy 20 Boeing 787-9 aircraft worth $4.52 billion and take options on another 20 planes.

Emirates Airlines, another sought-after buyer, said it was reconsidering its order of 45 A380s. Australia's Qantas Airways said it was seeking talks with Airbus over its orders for 12 A380s and wants some of its money back. Malaysia Airlines said it was reviewing terms of its deal for six of the planes.