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    New business class airline to launch

    LONDON, England -- British and American business travelers will soon have a new low-cost airline to choose from for flights between London and New York.

    Silverjet is expected to start its Luton to Newark business-class service six to nine months after it lists on London's Alternative Investment Market (AIM) in May.

    Silverjet announced on Monday that it hopes to raise £25 million ($43.5 million) from institutional investors.

    The company eventually wants to run a 10-aircraft fleet to other destinations. All 100 seats onboard the aircraft will have flatbeds and a full business class service will be offered, the company said.

    There will also be significantly reduced check-in times -- as little as 30 minutes.

    The airline will be based on a similar model to short-haul budget counterparts easyJet and Ryanair.

    The first all-business airlines offering low-cost fares, MAXjet and eos, began operating between London and the U.S. in November.

    Silverjet chief executive Lawrence Hunt has been working on developing the business for two years. Hunt has been involved in six start-up businesses since 1984.

    He told the UK's Press Association that big airlines gain most of their profits from premium customers and lose money in economy class.

    In effect, business class passengers were subsidizing economy class passengers, and by losing economy seats, prices can come down without any compromise in service, he said.

    "Market research has shown that passengers are currently not satisfied with the value of business class services on offer," Lawrence said.

    "We therefore believe that there is a real demand for a long-haul airline, operating on a low-cost basis yet offering a high-quality, business-class product."

    Peter Owen, a former British Airways operations director, is Silverjet's chairman, while John Bavister, a former Thomas Cook and Airtours executive, is finance director.

    Following the float, Mr Hunt will own a 10 percent stake in the business while a further 10 percent will be owned by the other five members of the management team.


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    I wonder what his definition of "low fare" is? Going into Newark does offer a different customer base but MaxJet and EOS depending on their financial status certainly can enter that market sooner then Silverjet if they choose.

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    Whatever happened to Primaris?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GothamSpotter
    Whatever happened to Primaris?
    They still have a website http://www.primarisairlines.com Whether or not this means they still plan to fly is anyone's guess. The most recent news on their site is well over a year old so who knows what that means.

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    The Primaris 757, 740PA, has been operating for Venezuela-based Santa Barbara Airlines since last summer. In the summer of 2004, it flew a number of charters for the White House press corps using a Primaris flight number, but that seems to be the last operation of note.

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    it'll be interesting to see what happens.


    incidentally I just read an article in GQ comparing the services offered on EOS and Maxjet. Its worth a read!
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    I just read a blip in Entrepreneur mag about exclusive upper class airlines and Silverjet was mentioned as an up and coming. They estimate delivery of their first aircraft no later than November of this year.

    Prices are set around $1900 roundtrip (to Luton) and the first flights will be from Newark and then eventually from JFK.

    Their 767s will be configured for 100 passengers with flat beds.

    check out the website: http://flysilverjet.com/

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    I read about Silverjet yesterday, as they are looking to hire people on craigslist.
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    While I think offering EWR service is smart of them, this space is going to get crowded fast and shake out. I am not sure there are that many premium passengers who are willing to forgo their Executive Club or AAdvantage miles and their elite status within those programs, especially if they are also earning miles on their credit cards and through other means.

    When I interviewed at Eos their sales and marketing people told me they were targeting the investment banking, hedge fund, and entertainment communities, i.e. people who do alot of point to point premium travel between NYC and London. Think of it as a transatlantic shuttle for rich people. While this market niche surely exists, as well as the one slightly below it that is occupied by Maxjet, is it really big enough to support 3 dedicated operators in addition to the several established multi-class airlines that already serve the route?

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    I can see the need for that niche. I just think they need something to set them apart a little more.

    I think any airline that goes for ultra-high-end clients should offer some deals on how to get people TO the airport. Like a special car service or even some hookup on the JFK shuttle or what-have-you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil D.
    I read about Silverjet yesterday, as they are looking to hire people on craigslist.
    Craigslist is amazing, never realized how popular that website is!
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    [quote=Midnight Mike]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Phil D.":ea5ae
    I read about Silverjet yesterday, as they are looking to hire people on craigslist.
    Craigslist is amazing, never realized how popular that website is![/quote:ea5ae]

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    Ok Phil, here is what I told Eos they needed to do, some of which they did, some of which they didn't , but either way I didn't get the job and the 2 execs that I met with are no longer there. Of course, some of these things are easier to do for 48 pax than for 100 (as Maxjet and Silverjet would have).

    1) Onboard internet access. If you truly want the high end business passenger, give him something he cannot get on any other NY-London service. ANA and LH have this, among others, but still nobody on the key NY-London sector offers it. They said it cost too much to install the equipment.

    2). Offer car service on both ends. If not a car service, offer a luxury motorcoach for all passengers to/from some central point. This is actually more important at STN, where there is no truly express fast rail link to/from central London, and they are offering car service with selected fares i.e. the higher ones.

    3). Partner with local high end hotels, restaurants, retailers, clubs, etc. in NY and London. After all, if you are flying frequently between NYC and London these places are probably known to you and part of your lifestyle, and for them it's a good marketing opportunity because they reach a highly targeted audience.

    4). Offer onboard food & beverage and amenities that are evocative of NY and London. E.g. offer fresh, local products that the majors can't because of their need for large scale catering contracts.

    What is interesting to me is that the Eos people seemed extremely focused on securing contracts with corporate travel managers at Wall Street firms and such. Presumably, these are also some of the same people that Maxjet and Silverjet would be targeting, and I wonder if there comes a point at which BA, VS, CO, AA or whoever they were dealing with previously (and may still deal with on other sectors) offer a bigger discount and the travel manager takes the deal, shutting out the startups.

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    Re: New business class airline to launch

    "Market research has shown that passengers are currently not satisfied with the value of business class services on offer," Lawrence said.
    Here is the major reason why the door has opened for the niche type of airlines.

    The 1st Class & Business class on the US & some of the Europeans airlines has tanked over the years....
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    [quote=Phil D.][quote="Midnight Mike":49252]
    Quote Originally Posted by "Phil D.":49252
    I read about Silverjet yesterday, as they are looking to hire people on craigslist.
    Craigslist is amazing, never realized how popular that website is![/quote:49252]

    WELCOME TO 1999!![/quote:49252]

    HA! HA! HA!

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