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    AA 10 today

    Iwas listening to tower about 7 this morning while AA 10 was landing they seemed to be coming in with some type of problem does anyone know what happened?
    Overheard on JFK TOWER - S Turns are fine, U-Turns are bad....

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    What airport?
    Email me anytime at [email protected].

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    AA10 is the 1030pm redeye from LAX to JFK.

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    I just wait a few days and check the ntsb web site
    Overheard on JFK TOWER - S Turns are fine, U-Turns are bad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari707
    I just wait a few days and check the ntsb web site
    :lol: :lol: YOUR BAD! :lol: :lol:
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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    what's so bad ????
    Overheard on JFK TOWER - S Turns are fine, U-Turns are bad....

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    The DC-10 and MD-11 have had a bad name over many years. This is
    because in the early years there were failures. Two were lost due to the
    latching mechanisms in the cargo door. The bigger problem was that
    there were no venting in the floor and when a explosive decompression of
    the aircraft occurred, the floor would collapse, severing hydraulic lines
    and causing catastrophic failures. The DC-10/MD-11 was also known as
    a "TRICKY BEAST", Crash 10 and many other names because of they
    were not your typical forgiving airframes. They were not really unsafe by
    any means but they were just a little different handling. You never really
    had a sweet-spot on approach, the deck never really wanted to stay at a
    certain angle per set airspeed and the pilot needed to be on the yolk a lot
    more than other commercial aircraft of the time and today. Other little
    quirks were pushing the stick forward after the mains would touch down
    and the speed-brakes deployed because of the tendencies for the aircraft
    wanting to pitch up. They also had failures due to hard landings where
    the aircraft would sometimes want to be on its back and win. (THESE
    WERE REALLY HARD LANDINGS)

    I really do not consider the AA DC-10 in Chicago a problem with the
    aircraft because that was a total pooch screw with maintenance trying to
    put an engine and pylon in place at the same time (Later found to be a
    real NO-NO). Even today if the pylon/engine was lost tearing out some
    of the hydraulics like in AA 191, it would not cause a failure of the
    airframe because of the lessons learned in that Chicago crash.

    Your comment about waiting to see the NTSB site was taken as "Waiting
    for the crash report" and I got a chuckle out of that given the history of
    this aircraft.....an unjust joke, but still funny to me!

    Here is a video of AA-191
    http://www.fromtheflightdeck.com/videos ... /AA191.WMV


    P.S. This is from memory, well..... It is right but still, I gave the
    spellchecker a real workout!
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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    I was asking about flt#10 on Monday morning not DC-10's
    Overheard on JFK TOWER - S Turns are fine, U-Turns are bad....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari707
    I was asking about flt#10 on Monday morning not DC-10's
    ahahahah, and here I was wondering when AA pulled a 10 out of the desert and why! :lol: :lol:
    The three most common expressions in aviation are, "Why is it doing that?", "Where are we?" and "Oh Crap".

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