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    There has finally been an update on that downwind...

    There has finally been an update on that downwind overshot landing and crash in Jamaica on Dec. 22, 2009 (American Airlines). It is starting to appear that the pilots were culpable for the reasons I...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    anything new on the investigation?
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    It seems as though it was one of those "perfect storm" scenario's where they had every little thing work against them. Max. tailwind, hadn't flown for a while, end of long flying day, rain, night,...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    I'm sure they didn't improperly or incompletely do the landing checklist intentionally. I'm just saying that with the rough flight in and the bad conditions it could of inadvertently been rushed....
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    that's probably true. Sorry about the age reference. I thought you were referring to me.
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    Yo, my piece ain't spoken yet son! ;)

    daneyd:

    I wasn't being condescending towards you and I apologize if I came off as so. This is a "forum" - a place where we come discuss, argue and talk...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    I have not flown commercially, or IFR even, for quite some time but have retained an interest in aviation and have also maintained my flying skills in my Piper Aztec Twin and I've owned for 10 years.
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    As for my experience I first obtained my pilots licence in 1979. I quickly got my twin engine endorsement and then my commercial licence. I flew for some time (right seat) for a private charter...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    I was not suggesting that I was "actually" profanely abused by the moderator, it was just that he was condescending and dismissive in the very early days of this crash when I, like most others, were...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    I re-iterate. I originally posted (on Dec 26th) a synopsis of what I believed to be to contributing factors of the AA Jamaica crash. I was quasi mocked and criticized by the moderator. In retrospect...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    I guess this is exactly why pilots fly the needles and don't analyze the causes.
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    I've taken a lot of abuse by the moderator from the beginning when I posted my synopsis on what I believed to be the contributing factors to this crash. Looking back I was right on point and the...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    Just hard for me to understand, even if you give them a pass on the approach downwind, why they wouldn't have bulked the landing and gone around. My guess is they were long and hot, probably flared...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    I posted this on the 26th. Looking more and more like that's about what it was.
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    In my mind there is absolutely zero chance that the tail wind will not be cited as a contributing factor. Then if you go to the next step they will question the dissision to go in downwind or...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    You said it a while back I think and its probably accurate. They came in a little long, floated a lot longer than normal, maybe caught some gusts, whatever, and ran out of runway. Still, the downwind...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    Sure we all know this. But in this case, they were LEGAL and within company limits both with tailwinds and I'm assuming total landing distance. Now if the reports come back and said their computed...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    I'm still thinking that at the end of the day there will be many contributing factors cited. Among them will be stress of conditions, and fatigue. But these factors will be contributing to the error...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    as for the speculations, I understand that it is irresponsible to speculate give the limited info we have, however that is what spurs some good dialogue on forums like this. I'm not pointing any...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    Just hard for me to understand, even if you give them a pass on the approach downwind, why they wouldn't have bulked the landing and gone around. My guess is they were long and hot, probably flared...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    What this video has in common with flight 331 is it demonstrates the difference between down wind and head wind landings. Had this pilot approached from the other end, he too would have made it. It's...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    Update on my video link post of the Citation skidding of end of runway. This happened on May of 05 at Bader Field Airport NJ. It's a small municipal airport and doesn't accept jet's. The runway that...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    here's a video of a small Citation Business Jet lands in a 15Kt down wind during the day and with just a light rain, grooved I might add. Just to give you an idea of what Flight 331 was up against. ...
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    The airport at Jamaica has a relatively short runway. However, generally speaking airports nearer sea level will have shorter runways. Case in point, Denver's International has a runway at 16,000 ft....
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    Re: American Airlines Crash at Kingston Jamaica

    AA JAMAICA CRASH: Although I am aware that it is irresponsible to speculate on a cause before all the facts are know, I do however feel that, at least on forums like this one, it is ok to speculate...
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