Oaklanc County intl, KPTK

[mtrain999]

Some spotting from one of Michigan's lesser known airports. Oakland county intl airport is ranked the 12th busiest GA airport in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVmkgmeXqBM

[Mateo]

What are your stats on that ranking? Crunching some FAA movements data (CY2013, adding "Itinerant GA" plus "Local Civil" - which excludes mil, air carrier, and air taxi), I get PTK as #51 in the country.
The top 10 are:
Deer Valley, AZ - DVT - 354,891
Daytona Beach, FL - DAB - 285,005
Centennial, CO - APA - 256,757
Mesa/Falcon, AZ - FFZ - 256,217
Van Nuys, CA - VNY - 255,941
Sanford, FL - SFB - 255,659
Prescott, AZ - PRC - 255,280
Long Beach, CA - LGB - 241,522
Tamiami, FL - TMB - 241,386
Grand Forks, ND - GFK - 232,928
PTK - 107,722

Air taxi will include some Part 135 Regional operators, but also lots of bizjet charters. I filtered out airports with more than 10,000 air carrier operations (Islip had 9,979, for example) since that's a good way to exclude airline hubs and then added back the air taxis, but that still bumps PTK only to #44.

For reference using the "with air taxi definition", FRG ranked 10th with 215K, TEB 20th at 161K, ISP 71st at 95K, and MMU 141st with 64K. HPN was filtered, but would have been 54th with 107K, although some of that will be Cape Air and 135 Regionals.

[mtrain999]

I got it from the airport website. I'm not sure where they get there data.
http://www.oakgov.com/aviation/ocia/Pages/default.aspx

[lijk604]

What are your stats on that ranking? Crunching some FAA movements data (CY2013, adding "Itinerant GA" plus "Local Civil" - which excludes mil, air carrier, and air taxi), I get PTK as #51 in the country.
The top 10 are:
Deer Valley, AZ - DVT - 354,891
Daytona Beach, FL - DAB - 285,005
Centennial, CO - APA - 256,757
Mesa/Falcon, AZ - FFZ - 256,217
Van Nuys, CA - VNY - 255,941
Sanford, FL - SFB - 255,659
Prescott, AZ - PRC - 255,280
Long Beach, CA - LGB - 241,522
Tamiami, FL - TMB - 241,386
Grand Forks, ND - GFK - 232,928
PTK - 107,722

Air taxi will include some Part 135 Regional operators, but also lots of bizjet charters. I filtered out airports with more than 10,000 air carrier operations (Islip had 9,979, for example) since that's a good way to exclude airline hubs and then added back the air taxis, but that still bumps PTK only to #44.

For reference using the "with air taxi definition", FRG ranked 10th with 215K, TEB 20th at 161K, ISP 71st at 95K, and MMU 141st with 64K. HPN was filtered, but would have been 54th with 107K, although some of that will be Cape Air and 135 Regionals.

PTK may just be tracking biz-jet movements. FRG may have 215k operations a year, but the overwhelming majority of those are flight school operations in C172 & PA-28's,
There is no way FRG has more biz-jet traffic than TEB, MMU or HPN. They probably are close to if not slightly higher than ISP, but if you get 20 biz-jet's at FRG a day, that's busy.

[mtrain999]

Some of the bigger planes that come into Ptk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkLpAC3uwlo