JFK 7/16/12

[steve1840]

If anybody is around today, im at JFK all day today. I'll be at the usual locations

[steve1840]

Well, I only stayed at JFK until about 1:15 and then decided to head home after seeing the clouds moving in. I figured I would make a break for it so I wouldn't hit traffic on the way home. So here are some shots from the morning taken from the Lowe's parking lot and then departures from Bayswater.

Had to snag this from the light in front of Lowes since I couldn't make it into the parking lot in time.
http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-z8Gvgqh/0/L/ElAl744Arrival-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969382140&k=z8Gvgqh&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-9Cg37gt/0/L/jetBlue10thAnnArrival-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969384484&k=9Cg37gt&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-MFDqwk4/0/L/ChinaAirCargoB744Arrival-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969381669&k=MFDqwk4&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-Qk9fq9c/0/L/HawaiianA332Arival-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969382508&k=Qk9fq9c&lb=1&s=A)

And then off to Bayswater...

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-dTMG2jd/0/L/BA744TowerDep-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969380438&k=dTMG2jd&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-9ntnSXj/0/L/ChinaAirCargo744TowerDep-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969381477&k=9ntnSXj&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-bWmth5d/0/L/TAMA332Dep-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969384510&k=bWmth5d&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-PNWbsqG/0/L/ElAl744Departurel-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969382528&k=PNWbsqG&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-FGbcXL7/0/L/CathayB777TowerDep-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969381533&k=FGbcXL7&lb=1&s=A)

Surprisingly there was not a lot of heat shimmer today. I was able to shoot these from Bayswater as they taxied to the end of 22L.

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-63FR6dx/0/L/SingaporeA380Arrival-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969383698&k=63FR6dx&lb=1&s=A)

http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-6Lzjs9f/0/L/KalittaB744Arrival-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969383379&k=6Lzjs9f&lb=1&s=A)

And the second C-130 to land on 22R
http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/i-hKvtKhD/0/L/C130Arrival-L.jpg (http://www.fursteditionphotography.com/Airplanes/Civilian-Aviation-2012/JFK-1-15-2012/21048914_5fDjZs#!i=1969381056&k=hKvtKhD&lb=1&s=A)

[Roush6NY]

Great shots buddy !

[eric8669]

Great shots Steve.

If I knew you were here I would have come out earlier. We got some great stuff this afternoon.

[steve1840]

Thanks Eric. I couldn't bring myself to stick around when I saw the clouds. But, I'm sure (as my luck goes) the clouds disappeared as soon as I crossed the CT border...

Can't wait to see your stuff.

[TJK]

What were th c-130s doing there?

Great photos!

[PhilDernerJr]

VP Biden is coming to LGA tomorrow...probably bringing his limos and advance teams.

[gonzalu]

Stephen, great shots. We kept wondering where you were. Snagged a few good ones at The Mounds!

[lijk604]

Great stuff there Steve. Sorry I couldn't make it out.

[eric8669]

From This Afternoon,

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_2877.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_2891.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_2910.jpg

On the go around
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_2935.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_2984.jpg

New Qantas Special. Thanks Conrad for the heads up
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_3026.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_3060.jpg

Manny, this ones for you
http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_3087.jpg

[gonzalu]

Decent... actually not as bad as I had expected. I actually did not feel like going to Howard Beach area at all due to the hellish traffic to get back home. Even then, it took me 1.5 hours to get home, 45 minutes of it just on the Van Wyck to GCP interchange...

[PhilDernerJr]

I don't know how many times I had a couple free hours and wanted to spot at JFK but didn't because I had to factor in the Van Wyck traffic time. :(

[PhilDernerJr]

That Aeromexico is a -200, no? Gorgeous plane.

[Roush6NY]

Great stuff, Eric !

[gonzalu]

Eric this one is for you :tongue:

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-d6V9gcn/0/L/i-d6V9gcn-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-WGQfHLb/0/L/i-WGQfHLb-L.jpg

Crop from above

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-977B2hk/0/L/i-977B2hk-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-xqmxjm8/0/L/i-xqmxjm8-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-v8v4m4K/0/L/i-v8v4m4K-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-2bqP7rQ/0/L/i-2bqP7rQ-L.jpg

[gonzalu]

I don't know how many times I had a couple free hours and wanted to spot at JFK but didn't because I had to factor in the Van Wyck traffic time. :(

I finish work at 5:00pm. Given the sunset at 8:30pm, it gives me a lot of time for spotting. Even LGA with traffic and bridge nonsense makes me say, nah... unless it is super special, I usually won't go.

[yankees368]

Manny, you can sleep on the couch if you ever want a close spot to JFK for the night :tongue:

The 2 mile drive down Peninsula Blvd. can sometimes take me 5 minutes to get to Panera, though.

[gonzalu]

The 2 mile drive down Peninsula Blvd. can sometimes take me 5 minutes to get to Panera, though.

I can only wish. BEst I ever had it was Sonesta Hotel, Maho Beach... Iwould trip over the front door and be on the sand spotting. Heck, I spotted from my room :tongue:

[yankees368]

I can only wish. BEst I ever had it was Sonesta Hotel, Maho Beach... Iwould trip over the front door and be on the sand spotting. Heck, I spotted from my room :tongue:

As you know, I often spot from my room :-)
However, I think I'm a tad further away from the action than you were at Maho Beach. I really need to get there some day.

[eric8669]

Decent... actually not as bad as I had expected. I actually did not feel like going to Howard Beach area at all due to the hellish traffic to get back home. Even then, it took me 1.5 hours to get home, 45 minutes of it just on the Van Wyck to GCP interchange...

You should take woodhaven blvd.

[steve1840]

Stephen, great shots. We kept wondering where you were. Snagged a few good ones at The Mounds!

Thanks Manny. Much like the conversation that this thread has started, I decided that dealing with traffic was not worth sticking around for. Especially since I had to be up at 3am this morning to make it to work early. I do wish I had stayed after seeing the Qantas was a special. I am really bummed that I passed up the chance to head to the mounds to get the green Cathay departing that I didn't get as it passed through my rear-view mirror while I was parked at the mounds after lunch waiting for the light to roll over to the west side. Oh well......the hunt continues...

[gonzalu]

As you know, I often spot from my room :-)
However, I think I'm a tad further away from the action than you were at Maho Beach. I really need to get there some day.

December my friend, NYCA Conference this year :tongue:


You should take woodhaven blvd.

Ha! and end up in a dead end? No thanks. I was married to Woodhaven BLVD way back in the late 80s early 90s when I had to work in Far Rockaway beach but just to GET TO the start of it by the L.I.E. was a challenge in itself. Let's be real here, JFK sucks ass to get to if you live anywhere past the Belt or the Van Wyck, period.

[Zee71]

Great stuff Steve.............if I knew you were out, I would have gotten you some coffee and some donuts on my way to work. I was hoping to catch the AeroMexico SkyTeam, but I couldn't get out of work earlier. I'll try to post some of my images later tonight. Another thing to keep a watchful eye for is probably the morning arrival for AbxAir. The new paint scheme on the a 767-383ER with DHL titles (its........operated by AbxAir). The registration of the bird is N220CY.............I like the new scheme.

Manny is absolutely right about Woodhaven Blvd., during rush hour to and from the city it's a bear!!! Too many cabs, liveries, trucks and commuters on that road. I even avoid it and take local side streets to get back home from Woodhaven when visiting relatives or doing work on my moms house.

The best way for Manny to get back home would be via Sam Chui's helicopter! :)

Honestly, I think Lefferts Blvd. may work, even with all the traffic light until you get to the Interboro Parkway (or Jackie Robinson Parkway) and GCP.

[eric8669]

Ok. Guys. Well Woodhaven Blvd is my alternate to the Van Wyck most of the time. I use it frequently and find it much faster even during rush hour.

[gonzalu]

Lefferts may be OK to JRP to GCP.

Eric, the problem is not that Woodhaven is bad or not. It leaves me at a dead end on the way home. If it went all the way to the GCP / La Guardia, it'd be worth it. But to the L.I.E. I'd still have to hit the world's largest parking lot to get to either the GCP or the BQE or worse, Manhattan!

I have used it coming to JFK from Midtown but then again, so are the cabbies and like Mark said, it can be pretty poor too if it is bad enough. Can;t win :-)

Didn't feel like switching lenses so here is a hastily put together panorama :P Right-click view image for a larger version.

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-b4BmBkS/0/X2/i-b4BmBkS-X2.jpg

[yankees368]

December my friend, NYCA Conference this year :tongue;

Bring it on! Though I looked at using my Delta miles for that, and the website basically laughed at me.

[megatop412]

Steve great lighting you got on that first shot of the ElAl

[PhilDernerJr]

I've had more than once when it took me a half hour to get from Panera just to JFK! Rockaway Blvd can be just as bad.

[eric8669]

I've had more than once when it took me a half hour to get from Panera just to JFK! Rockaway Blvd can be just as bad.

Rockaway is horrible, you have to go around sometimes. Peninsula to Branch blvd to Park Ln to Rosedale rd to 147ST. It sounds like a lot of turns but sometimes its faster then waiting in traffic on Rockaway blvd.

[gonzalu]

Rockaway is horrible, you have to go around sometimes. Peninsula to Branch blvd to Park Ln to Rosedale rd to 147ST. It sounds like a lot of turns but sometimes its faster then waiting in traffic on Rockaway blvd.

I believe you :-)

[megatop412]

Having grown up on Rockaway Tpke, I can vouch that things NEVER used to be this bad- even after the road widening project things get slow as molasses right as you hit the Bypass- the worst part of my trip back to Jersey is almost always that and getting on the Belt

and to think that 878 was sold as a project that would get Atlantic Beach traffic off the Tpke- my Mom still has traffic jams in front of her house to this day

[gonzalu]

They can really easily solve it by:

--NOT ALLOWING CROSSING traffic from either the strip mall towards the beach or from the other side towards the city.
--Make those folks use a newly constructed U-turn they can make one right where Verizon is now, waste of space anyway.
--Make the existing lights on the gauntlet MUCH LONGER. It takes time for most people to react to a green light.. so make the lights much longer. I would not mind waiting in line for 5 minutes if I knew there would be 5 minutes of green light to help me make it across such gauntlet!
--Build an ALTERNATIVE path... right now the nearest decent alternative is unknown to most and not really convenient. The other alternative is the Cross bay, which is 100 miles away! Well, isn't it? :P

[eric8669]

They can really easily solve it by:

--NOT ALLOWING CROSSING traffic from either the strip mall towards the beach or from the other side towards the city.
--Make those folks use a newly constructed U-turn they can make one right where Verizon is now, waste of space anyway.
--Make the existing lights on the gauntlet MUCH LONGER. It takes time for most people to react to a green light.. so make the lights much longer. I would not mind waiting in line for 5 minutes if I knew there would be 5 minutes of green light to help me make it across such gauntlet!
--Build an ALTERNATIVE path... right now the nearest decent alternative is unknown to most and not really convenient. The other alternative is the Cross bay, which is 100 miles away! Well, isn't it? :P

Hard to build alternative, there's water everywhere and protected land.

[Zee71]

Well.....finally got around to a few of my images..........sorry for some of the dups.

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Airplanes-and-Spotting/Kennedy-JFK/i-r8kqXJ2/0/L/AirItaly01JFK16Jul201222LIAIGG-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Airplanes-and-Spotting/Kennedy-JFK/i-7xGVnXw/0/L/Qantas01JFK16Jul201222LVHOJU-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Airplanes-and-Spotting/Kennedy-JFK/i-8QCfFpq/0/L/AirFrance01JFK16Jul201222LFHPJ-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Odd-Stuff/i-mtBwdZW/0/L/DHL01JFK16Jul2012RampN220CY-L.jpg

My ugly shot of AeroMexico as I was driving back home..........taken with the 24-120mm lens, and cropped to no end! He was far and high when I shot it.
http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Odd-Stuff/i-3S9V35m/0/L/AeroMexico01JFK16Jul201231L-L.jpg

[gonzalu]

This is the BAW o around, through my sunroof from Van Wyck/JFK Exp interchange. She was coming in to 31R when she bolted. I severily underexposed it so I just go Eric-cky with it :tongue:

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-RRm46nC/0/O/i-RRm46nC.jpg