Air Force One in NYC 6/4 and 6/14/12

[fk6065]

Thursday June 14th, 2012 President Obama is scheduled to visit and tour the Freedom Tower at 1 World Trade Center.

Look for Air Force One into JFK.

[Zee71]

Earlier today (6/3) we saw the C-17 arriving at JFK (see was sitting by the triple hangers as well).

[lijk604]

TFR starting at 1600L (4pm) He'll be in shortly after that.

[Matt Molnar]

He'll be here 6/4 AND 6/14.

[Gerard]

Thursday June 14th, 2012 President Obama is scheduled to visit and tour the Freedom Tower at 1 World Trade Center.
Look for Air Force One into JFK.

Actually he is coming in today, 6/4/12, also. Or was that a typo?

[moose135]

Actually he is coming in today, 6/4/12, also. Or was that a typo?
He will be here both days.

[steve1840]

Are you sure he is coming today? I thought it was just the First Lady coming to NYC today....

[Big Tim #70]

I wonder if the plans are going to change for the 14th as well. The tower had a pretty decent fire Sat on the 89th floor.

[gonzalu]

Check this page later... it will refresh to yesterday until the day's schedule is posted. Right now it is still showing 6/3

projects.washingtonpost.com/potus-tracker/2012/06/04/

[gonzalu]

I wonder if the plans are going to change for the 14th as well. The tower had a pretty decent fire Sat on the 89th floor.

http://www.enstarz.com/articles/3186/20120602/world-trade-center-fire-put-out-by-fdny.htm

[yankees368]

Ugh. I'm currently 0-2 with AF1, both times in poor conditions. This is temping, but I will probably pass and wait for a day with better (any) sun.

[Big Tim #70]

http://www.enstarz.com/articles/3186/20120602/world-trade-center-fire-put-out-by-fdny.htm


The article makes it sound like it wasn't a big deal but from what I heard, this thing could have gone bad real quick. I've heard a few guys describe it as being similiar to Deusch Bank conditions at one point & they couldn't get water up to the fire floor due to Stand Pipes not being connected/done.

That being said, from the article, it still looks like they're still expecting POTUS to visit on the 14th.

[eric8669]

Ugh. I'm currently 0-2 with AF1, both times in poor conditions. This is temping, but I will probably pass and wait for a day with better (any) sun.

Its getting brighter out, I think I may make a run later on.

[emk1219]

After getting smacked last time with a 31R i aint goin!

[hiss srq]

Air Force 1 will land 31R.

[yankees368]

I'm gambling it's 31R, so I will be watching from home. Approx 20 mins from now.

[Mateo]

31L being swept right now.

[eric8669]

Air Force 1 will land 31R.

so much for your 31R prediction

[emk1219]

did AF1 land yet?

[NIKV69]

so much for your 31R prediction

LOL, fail.

[gonzalu]

He better have if he is to make his schedule

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/potus-tracker/2012/06/04/

[fk6065]

I didn't even realize he was coming in today. My post was for the 14th

[Big Tim #70]

I got it. Landed on 31L.

I was pissed because everyone else was landing on 4L, so I guessed (wrong) that they would come in on the normal pattern. I heard it coming from behind & got some (almost) overhead shots. Sucks, because I had the city w/the freedom tower in the frame for 4L & the sky was sick today.

I'll post when I get home.

[moose135]

I was pissed because everyone else was landing on 4L, so I guessed (wrong) that they would come in on the normal pattern.
Don't pay attention to the usual flow of traffic - they will come in the way they want regardless of the current active runway, unless conditions are outrageous.

[Big Tim #70]

Where I was set up, hoping to see AF-1...

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6599/processed68.jpg. Very Angry Skies but was able to catch a couple 380's in the same shot.

I was scrambling & was lucky to get these.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/483/processed64.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/processed64.jpg/)http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/8184/processed6.jpg

[TJK]

Nice shots regardless on an awful day, especially of the double a-380s.

[Big Tim #70]

Nice shots regardless on an awful day, especially of the double a-380s.


Thank you.

[gonzalu]

Don't pay attention to the usual flow of traffic - they will come in the way they want regardless of the current active runway, unless conditions are outrageous.

Even if conditions are outrageous LOL. I have seen AF1 take off in 13L with 30 knot gusts coming from the west. They have special engines :tongue:

[Mateo]

so much for your 31R predictionThis is what happens when you listen to the Learjet Captain.

[Big Tim #70]

Even if conditions are outrageous LOL. I have seen AF1 take off in 13L with 30 knot gusts coming from the west. They have special engines :tongue:

I thought when I saw the 380 come in, I'd be good. I was wrong...

[gonzalu]

AF1 spotting tips:

--When trying to capture shots of Air Force One, concentrate on AF1 and pay no attention to whatever JFK ops are doing nor to any other planes
--Use a scanner. Listen to NY Approach first. When she gets handed off to Final Approach or to Tower, switch accordingly.
--AF1 is usually much faster approaching the airport than any regular airliners. Times are compressed.
--Use LiveATC to listen to the departing airport and track her as much as you can via LiveATC.
--When she makes first contact with Approach Control, she will announce the RWY preferred. Unless a miracle happens, Tower will honor any runway requested. Likely arranged ahead of time and likely an SS agent is standing next to the Tower controller :smile:
--Get rid of family and ALL friends if you are really serious about catching her. Otherwise, follow one of the likes of Moose, Eric, Senga, Tom Turner, etc. :tongue:

[Mateo]

AF1 spotting tips:
Also, 10-15 minutes before AF1 lands, one of the Port's airfield ops vehicles will do a sweep of the runway. Clearance to enter the runway is given via Ground (since typically the runway is removed as an active once the sweep is about to begin and restored as an active after AF1 arrives).

[jlaico1]

I was trying to feed BigTim the info from ATC and we were too busy catching. My bad.

[eric8669]

Also, 10-15 minutes before AF1 lands, one of the Port's airfield ops vehicles will do a sweep of the runway. Clearance to enter the runway is given via Ground (since typically the runway is removed as an active once the sweep is about to begin and restored as an active after AF1 arrives).

That is incorrect, I here the clearance given by the tower all the time.

[megatop412]

[QUOTE

--Get rid of family and ALL friends if you are really serious about catching her. Otherwise, follow one of the likes of Moose, Eric, Senga, Tom Turner, etc. :tongue:[/QUOTE]


I brought my mother over to Inwood Park on Monday to catch the arrival. There was a secret service car parked on the grass about 20 feet away from us and they never said a word, I'm beginning to think having her there helped my cause

[Big Tim #70]

I was actually at the Inwood Marina. Got some funny looks but nobody said anything until after AF1 had flown over. Not the greatest spot for shooting as the approach is pretty overhead. Next time I'll go to the park.

[Gerard]

[QUOTE=megatop412;468990
I brought my mother over to Inwood Park on Monday to catch the arrival. There was a secret service car parked on the grass about 20 feet away from us and they never said a word, I'm beginning to think having her there helped my cause[/QUOTE]

Mothers and kids always help!! :tongue:

[gonzalu]

3:25 p.m. Obama departs Ohio en route New York City (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/potus-tracker/2012/06/14/14578/)
4:35 p.m. Obama arrives New York City (http://projects.washingtonpost.com/potus-tracker/2012/06/14/14579/)


TFRs

Cleveland
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_7987.html

NYC
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_7909.html
http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_7932.html

[yankees368]

Poo, I won't be able to make it today. That makes me 0-4.

[gonzalu]

I just hope they are late. I have a meeting ending at 4:30 so it will be interesting to see if I can get there in time :tongue:

[TJK]

I drove by the airport yesterday b/c I wanted to get a night photo of the Korea Air cargo 747 (I love the paint scheme), and while leaving, spotted the C-17. It took great restraint to not pull over and try to shoot through the fence.

[TJK]

I just hope they are late. I have a meeting ending at 4:30 so it will be interesting to see if I can get there in time :tongue:

Good luck.

[Cary]

I just hope they are late. I have a meeting ending at 4:30 so it will be interesting to see if I can get there in time :tongue:

AF1 late? Only Mark Z would have that kind of luck. But you would probably build a robot Manny to fill in for you, at the meeting.

[Mateo]

Sounds like a 4L sweep, and it might be running a few minutes late!

[fk6065]

It's late and they are presently using 4 & 22

[Mateo]

1705 on 15mi base to 31L

[fk6065]

Checked in for 31-L

[fk6065]

Landed 31-L

[megatop412]

no pictures posted yet? slackers:tongue:

[eric8669]

no pictures posted yet? slackers:tongue:

hold on, coming soon.

[eric8669]

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_3203.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_3220.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_3245.jpg

The bugs/mosquitos were out in force at Bayswater.

[gonzalu]

I can't wait to see a 747-8/VC-xx in these colors and role !!

[megatop412]

OK Eric you've convinced me. No more Inwood Park for AF1 for me, the first shot is excellent, beacon and everything- no way can you get all that fuselage titling from Inwood

[eric8669]

Sounds like a 4L sweep, and it might be running a few minutes late!

The 4L sweep was for turtles..

[gonzalu]

OK Eric you've convinced me. No more Inwood Park for AF1 for me, the first shot is excellent, beacon and everything- no way can you get all that fuselage titling from Inwood

Actually, for 31L, Inwood is closer than Bayswater... good for distance, but no clear view of the tower... You have to compromise something :-)

[gonzalu]

The 4L sweep was for turtles..

That was hilarious when the captain said to the tower "Tower, there is another turtle crossing the runway" lol

[eric8669]

Actually, for 31L, Inwood is closer than Bayswater... good for distance, but no clear view of the tower... You have to compromise something :-)

I was at Bayswater 2 as I call it.

[moose135]

That was hilarious when the captain said to the tower "Tower, there is another turtle crossing the runway" lol
Caution wake turbulence behind a departing turtle...

[Mateo]

Yeah, kept hearing all sorts of PIREPs for Turtles on the 4s.

[Mateo]

Oh, and my contribution - 159354 as MARINE 1 lining it up at JRB

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7102/7187967069_0f445b4b16_b_d.jpg

[Chris102]

Very nice shots everyone!

@Mateo--very nice VH-3D! Last time I saw that particular tail number, it had the single-pane cockpit windows. Seems that most if not all of those have been replaced with the double pane ones.

Did you notice if the landing gear was still retractable? Apparently they're going to permanently pin down the gear on all the VH-3D's, if they haven't done so already.

[fk6065]

A few others from Bayswater

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-N2fx9Qq/0/L/i-N2fx9Qq-L.jpg

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-FSMVK5n/0/L/i-FSMVK5n-L.jpg

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-ggqznzB/0/L/i-ggqznzB-L.jpg

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-jjPJZZq/0/L/i-jjPJZZq-L.jpg

Wish the light was a little better by the tower when he landed.

[fk6065]

While we were waiting for AF-1 NYPD Aviation gave us a nice low fast approach and great bank followed later on by NCPD Aviation checking us out.

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-7gqNcmb/0/L/i-7gqNcmb-L.jpg

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-Shmrpgs/0/L/i-Shmrpgs-L.jpg

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-wKhFhvS/0/L/i-wKhFhvS-L.jpg

[megatop412]

looks like the same NYPD chopper that shadowed the Shuttle last week

[eric8669]

While we were waiting for AF-1 NYPD Aviation gave us a nice low fast approach and great bank followed later on by NCPD Aviation checking us out.



Nice, didn't see that from my location.