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2012-06-01, 12:50 PM

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With its move across Kennedy Airport Friday morning, Space Shuttle Enterprise has begun the final leg of its journey to the Intrepid Sea Air and Space Museum in New York, a leg which will take several days.http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/nycaviation/~4/cxh2I_KrBK0
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With its move across Kennedy Airport this morning, Space Shuttle Enterprise has begun the final leg of its journey from the Smithsonian in Washington DC to the Intrepid Sea Air and Space Museum in New York, a leg which will take a few days.

Here's a full schedule:

On Saturday, June 2, beginning no earlier than 4 pm, Enterprise will be lifted by crane and placed onto the barge. Craning takes approximately three hours.

On Sunday, June 3, at 7:45 a.m., the barge carrying Enterprise will depart JFK, towed by a Weeks Marine tugboat, and will travel along the shore of Queens and Brooklyn, passing the Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge at 3:30 p.m.; Coney Island at 4:19 p.m.; and under the Verrazano Bridge at 5:34 p.m. before docking at Weeks Marine in Port Elizabeth, NJ at 6:00 p.m.

On Monday, June 4, the barge and shuttle will remain at Weeks Marine in Port Elizabeth, NJ.

On Tuesday, June 5, at 9:15 a.m., the barge and shuttle will leave Weeks Marine, passing the Statue of Liberty at 9:50 a.m.; the World Trade Center at 10:40 a.m.; and travel up the Hudson River, completing its journey at the Intrepid Museum at 11:30 a.m. where it will be lifted by crane onto the flight deck and put into position facing the Hudson River. Craning operation takes three hours.

Enterprise will be open to the public beginning July 19th.

Note: All times and dates are dependent on weather and tide conditions.

Chris S

2012-06-01, 01:19 PM

Does anyone have any info of possible places to park in Red Hook inorder to see the Shuttle pass by the Statue of Liberty ?

megatop412

2012-06-01, 01:23 PM

Wait, so we get barge shots of the shuttle on Sunday and Tuesday separated by the inaugural Hawaiian flight on Monday? What a cool couple of days. See you folks then

alberchico

2012-06-01, 03:41 PM

Message posted today by the Intrepid museum:

''All fans of space shuttle Enterprise will be happy to know that the NASA’s first space shuttle orbiter is bound for Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum.

After her ferry flight from Dulles to John F. Kennedy airport on April 27, 2012, space shuttle Enterprise will now employ yet another mode of transportation—barge—to complete her journey home and arrive safely in Manhattan.

The journey begins today when Enterprise, atop the trailer she was placed on after being de-mated from the NASA Shuttle Carrier Aircraft (SCA) 747, is rolled from her current location under the protective Radiant Aviation Hangar to a near-water location at John F. Kennedy (JFK) International Airport. Tonight, preparations will be made to lift Enterprise by crane and place her on to the barge in the early afternoon on Saturday, June 2.

Enterprise fans from Coney Island to Clinton are invited to watch this modern marvel float from Jamaica Bay to New York Harbor. On Sunday, June 3rd the space shuttle is scheduled to depart John F. Kennedy airport at 7:45am and make its way around Brooklyn. Projected look out points include the Rockaways, Coney Island, Bay Ridge. The barge is set pass under the Verrazano Bridge around 5:30pm before it docks overnight in Bayonne, New Jersey. Here, crews will prepare space shuttle Enterprise for the second leg of her journey.

It is not until Tuesday, June 5th that Enterprise will continue up the Hudson River. She is scheduled to depart Bayonne at approximately 9:15am and sail past the Statue of Liberty and Freedom Tower before she reaches her final destination at Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum.''

Which location would be better for photos, the west side waterfront or across the river in Jersey ?

Speedbird1

2012-06-01, 08:12 PM

On Monday, the Shuttle will be transferred to a different barge at the Bayonne Dry Dock. The problem is what time will this transfer take place ? Naturally, the weather looks unsettled this weekend and that could shake-up all the schedules.

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-01, 08:39 PM

They forgot to add "It'll cost you $50 per person to see that and the Concorde when you come to Intrepid."

Fighting_falcon_51

2012-06-01, 10:19 PM

I am thinking that another trip to NY might be in order......gotta check my schedule

DON'T.

It will end up raining. :biggrin:

TJK

2012-06-02, 12:16 AM

They forgot to add "It'll cost you $50 per person to see that and the Concorde when you come to Intrepid."I'm done with my love affair with that museum. They used to give a charity I was associated with a good rate for a huge fundraiser for young professionals that used to raise over $200k every year. After the refit, the rate to use the ship suddenly more than doubled. Pathetic. They invested so much in getting the refit down its now being run purely from the bottom line point of view. They should lose their 501(c)(3) status as far as I'm concerned.

TJK

2012-06-02, 12:19 AM

Needless to say ill still disappear from the office for an hour on Tuesday to get a photo ... or 10.

Speedbird1

2012-06-02, 04:13 AM

The Museum also got rid of the Iwo Jima flag-raising replica however they were the only NYC institution that wanted a Concorde to display. I attended a free Memorial Day service last week and even got seated and free bottles of water.

wunaladreamin

2012-06-02, 10:40 AM

DON'T.

It will end up raining. :biggrin:

Hercules! Hercules!

Matt Molnar

2012-06-02, 11:13 AM

Does anyone have any info of possible places to park in Red Hook inorder to see the Shuttle pass by the Statue of Liberty ?
You should have a decent view from the pier next to Ikea in Red Hook. Lots of parking there.

Speedbird1

2012-06-02, 12:00 PM

It will cost over $50 if you want to go aboard Concorde, tour the ship plus visit the Shuttle Pavilion. The Concorde Tour is a separate fee and so will the fee to see the Enterprise. Incidentally, I received an invitation several years ago to attend the Welcoming Ceremony for Concorde. When I tried to enter, I was told that I needed to pay the General Admission in order to see the ceremony. I managed to see it anyway but was humiliated for believing that I got a special invite. I realize that the Museum needs a large sum of contributions as they wish to build a permanent home for the Enterprise across 12th Ave. but why take advantage of loyal supporters?

Speedbird1

2012-06-02, 12:10 PM

Speedbird1

2012-06-02, 12:16 PM

There is a huge parking lot near the pier where the Queen Mary 2 docks. However, it might only be opened when a cruise ship is in the dock. Go to the Port Authority website and search under ports facilities. They can help you I hope. I have no car so I must ride the bus.

Derf

2012-06-02, 01:50 PM

Here is a picture I snapped last night
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Enterprise-Space-Shuttle-at/i-9zPrpZK/0/L/IMG788345-L.jpg

Matt Molnar

2012-06-02, 02:47 PM

There is confusion about where the Shuttle will be on Mon. June 4. The Intrepid site says it will be at Bayonne, NJ but other articles say she will be towed all the way over to Port Elizabeth. If true, she must be towed through the narrow Kill Van Kull and under the Bayonne Bridge west towards Port Elizabeth. If so, Staten Island would offer great viewing spots on Mon. Does anybody know where she will actually stay on Monday? Each spot is quite different. Bayonne or Pt. Elizabeth, that is the question? I'll take the ferry on Monday, weather permitting.

We do know it is going to Weeks Marine. For some reason, Intrepid's schedule said Weeks is in Port Elizabeth, when it is actually on the Jersey City/Bayonne border. Some people probably consider it Bayonne, which is why some articles note it as such, but it is technically in Jersey City.

moose135

2012-06-02, 05:40 PM

We do know it is going to Weeks Marine.
Is that the same place they brought US 1549 after they pulled it from the Hudson?

Matt Molnar

2012-06-02, 07:56 PM

Is that the same place they brought US 1549 after they pulled it from the Hudson?
Pretty sure it is. I know it's the same company, can't say for sure that it's the same spot but most likely yes. Maybe some of the same boats will be used. Tom Turner probably knows.

Matt Molnar

2012-06-02, 08:13 PM

So is anyone heading out? I'm thinking about starting at the Cross Bay Bridge and then maybe following it to Gil Hodges, Coney Island, etc.

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-02, 10:43 PM

GothamSpotter I plan on the same route. I wonder why if they leave at 8 am what time it will get to the Crossbay Bridge. I plan on being by the McDonalds and follow it up to the Marine Parkway bridge and settle where the ferry leaves from.

moose135

2012-06-02, 10:44 PM

I'm thinking about heading over to SI to catch it coming through the VZ (don't think I'll be able to get out earlier) and may try to spot it over at Weeks.

alberchico

2012-06-02, 11:03 PM

So I'm guessing on Tuesday morning Battery park would be the best place to catch her passing by the statue of liberty on her way to Intrepid ?

Zee71

2012-06-02, 11:06 PM

Not sure if it's accessible since I haven't been there in a while, but there are some nice views from Fort Wades Worth in Staten Island at the foot of the Verrazano bridge as well as a nice view of lower Manhattan. I'll will try to get to the Cross Bay Bridge. Note: High tide is at 7:43am and Low tide is about 2:17pm tomorrow (Sunday, June 3rd).

Below is some additional information

Water cannons and fireboats will be part of the Enterprise's pass by the Statue of Liberty (this should be a great shot from Governors Island!).

SUNDAY
Pulled by a tugboat, the barge will travel along the shore of Queens and Brooklyn, passing the Marine Parkway-Gil Hodges Memorial Bridge about 3:30 p.m. and Coney Island about 4:20. It should pass the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge about 5:35.
MONDAY
Enterprise will be parked at Weeks Marine Terminal in Jersey City, N.J., through the day, as final preparations are made.
TUESDAY
At 9:15 a.m., the shuttle will begin its journey through New York Harbor and up the Hudson River. It should pass the Statue of Liberty at 9:50 a.m. and the World Trade Center site at 10:40 a.m. It will complete its journey at the Intrepid museum at 11:30 a.m. A crane will lift the Enterprise onto the flight deck of the Intrepid at Pier 86 on 46th Street and 12th Avenue.

megatop412

2012-06-02, 11:08 PM

Matt I plan to get shots of it under the Hodges bridge, but, where the heck does one park around the Rockaway-side? Just on the road? If it's sunny that would be the side to shoot from at that time of the day

Speedbird1

2012-06-03, 05:23 AM

Weeks Marine cannot be located at Port Elizabeth as it's near Cape May,NJ. They must mean Elizabethport which is near the Dry Dock where the Intrepid was repaired. I'll ride the SI ferry on Monday and try to see where the barge is. Hopefully, the weather will hold.

Speedbird1

2012-06-03, 05:28 AM

Battery Park City esplanade is even better as I got a great view of the tall ships from SI and up the Hudson to Canal St. I can't see the barge at the other sites as I have no car so the Cross Bay Bridge/ Marine Pky Bridge would be difficult for me.

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-03, 08:11 AM

megatop412

There is a parking lot where the ferry leaves from near the Marine Parkway Bridge. You can get a good shot of it coming under the Bridge.

megatop412

2012-06-03, 08:21 AM

Thank you Vinny I will check that out

TJK

2012-06-03, 09:40 AM

There's a Duane reade at the corner of beach116th st and beach channel drive in rockaway. The rockaway 911 memorial park is right next to it. You should be able to get some shots of it headed through the bay and headed towards the marine park bridge from there. There's also a parking lot for the federal park and the ferry from the Rockaways into the city on the Rockaways side of the marine park bridge, just west of the bridge itself. It should allow for some good photos, too. Sadly, while that's right by my apartment, I'm inmwestchester today. Would have been nice to meet some of you guys. Good luck!

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-03, 10:33 AM

I am sitting on crossbay bridge. You can download an app called marine traffic and watch where the barge is. The barge is named Kathleen. It is still in bergen basin.

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-03, 11:40 AM

You can follow the track here http://marinetraffic.com/ais/# Tugboat name is Kathleen. I just came back home after waiting on the bridge since 8am.

sammers4247

2012-06-03, 01:14 PM

How accurate is that schedule? I am on Staten Island and want to go under the VZ bridge.

Gerard

2012-06-03, 03:57 PM

Storms starting to come through. Heavy one here in East Nassau.

yankees368

2012-06-03, 06:36 PM

Chased the shuttle from HoBe to Cross Bay to Marine Parkway Bridge. Awesome shots along the way. Thanks for the company, Manny, Eric, Moose, and Mark.

Full set is on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.116822525123458.17893.100003871331015&type=1&l=9467aedc32

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_0835-3.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_0865-10.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_0882-14.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_0918-17.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_0953-21.jpg

top of the tail, which seems to have just made it under the Cross Bay Bridge
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_0965-23.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_0971-24.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_1004-28.jpg

http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/yankees368/Space%20Shuttle%20Barge/DSC_1018-30.jpg

eric8669

2012-06-03, 07:09 PM

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_0584_5_6.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_0698_699_700.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_0716_7_8.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_0869_70_71.jpg

yankees368

2012-06-03, 07:14 PM

Wow, your pictures almost look HDR eric

eric8669

2012-06-03, 07:16 PM

Wow, your pictures almost look HDR eric

They Are. :)

CX777

2012-06-03, 08:58 PM

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_0869_70_71.jpg

Holy $%#%#@ Batman.. thats a poster shot Eric. Great shots guys. Of corse thanks to my work schedule, I am totally missing this whole event and &#$$& up the storm!! MY first day off is Wed 6th, too late by then I guess.

Zee71

2012-06-03, 09:03 PM

I wish I was able to make it to the bridge and meet up with the rest of the gang, but unfortunately, I had another late afternoon family function. Here are a few from earlier this afternoon as the barge waited before it made its trek to the Cross Bay Memorial bridge. As always sir Manny it was a great pleasure shooting with you. By the way, who was that other guy next to us (oh yeah..........Jason!).

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Enterprise/i-k5HMFRN/0/L/ShuttleEnterprise01JFK03Jun201-L.jpg

http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Enterprise/i-n59BxNw/0/L/ShuttleEnterprise03JFK03Jun201-L.jpg

Click on the image for a larger view
http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Enterprise/i-x6T8J8q/0/L/ShuttleEnterprise02JFK03Jun201-L.jpg (http://mbsphotography.smugmug.com/Aviation/Enterprise/i-x6T8J8q/0/X3/ShuttleEnterprise02JFK03Jun201-X3.jpg)

Wavefront

2012-06-03, 09:22 PM

Took my family to "To the Struggle Against World Terrorism" Monument (also known as the Tear of Grief and the Tear Drop Memorial) at Bayonne to watch Space Shuttle Enterprise.
There was a storm just before Enterprise get into the Upper New York Bay. People had to get back into their cars for the heavy rain. We had a rainbow after the storm and I had my Galen Rowell moment by putting Enterprise and the rainbow in the same frame. :smile:

http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-gvJspTd/0/L/IMG1680-L.jpg

http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-p2XTHzr/0/L/IMG1743-L.jpg

http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-PBZFppZ/0/L/IMG1706-L.jpg

http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-L8r9snt/2/L/IMG1716-L.jpg

http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-PnHBR3C/0/L/IMG1756-L.jpg

yankees368

2012-06-03, 09:28 PM

Awesome shots everyone! And yep, that was me! haha (though I will never take that messy route again)

Zee71

2012-06-03, 09:54 PM

Wavefront.............excellent series! Fantastic catch of the shuttle with the rainbow and lower Manhattan skyline, the Statue of Liberty and the tower.

eric8669

2012-06-03, 09:55 PM

Thanks Raj

And great shots everyone.

Wavefront

2012-06-03, 10:10 PM

Wavefront.............excellent series! Fantastic catch of the shuttle with the rainbow and lower Manhattan skyline, the Statue of Liberty and the tower.
Thanks. The rainbow stayed in the sky long enough and I was lucky to be there.

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-03, 10:16 PM

Yankees368 I think I was standing next to you on the Crossbay Bridge.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--M8QXJFcXxM/T8vZxBgT4EI/AAAAAAAADn4/nOFG_C0U16w/s741/DSC00568.jpg

alberchico

2012-06-03, 10:31 PM

Excellent shots !!! Can't wait for Tuesday morning !!!!!! :wink:

yankees368

2012-06-03, 10:54 PM

Yankees368 I think I was standing next to you on the Crossbay Bridge.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/--M8QXJFcXxM/T8vZxBgT4EI/AAAAAAAADn4/nOFG_C0U16w/s741/DSC00568.jpg

Ah ha...well, hello!

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-03, 11:31 PM

Guys, I look at these photos, and I am so proud to be a member here. Among the best collection of photos from a group I think this site has ever seen. Kudos all around.

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-03, 11:37 PM

Guys, we may want to make a gallery of your photos in an article on the site. If you posted shots in this thread and are cool with that, just reply saying so please!

eric8669

2012-06-03, 11:48 PM

Guys, we may want to make a gallery of your photos in an article on the site. If you posted shots in this thread and are cool with that, just reply saying so please!

no problem

Wavefront

2012-06-04, 12:10 AM

Guys, we may want to make a gallery of your photos in an article on the site. If you posted shots in this thread and are cool with that, just reply saying so please!

Phil, feel free to use my photos. Let me know if you need any of them in higher resolution.

Matt Molnar

2012-06-04, 12:22 AM

Amazing shots, everyone!

I planned on heading to Cross Bay, but I got a late start due to some wedding planning.

I did end up finding a nice spot near Sea Gate, on the western tip of the Coney Island peninsula. Just two keepers from me...

http://www.nycaviation.com/newspage/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/01.jpg

http://www.nycaviation.com/newspage/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/02.jpg

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 12:24 AM

Phil you can use my stuff. I am processing the 500 or so pics now. They will be up somewhere tomorrow.

Yankees368 - I knew someone from this forum was near me because on a few occasions I saw some people taking pics of planes behind the bridge towards the city.

I am in the process of uploading 7 videos from today. The first one just went live. http://youtu.be/Cud6xVwPZWY I hope the members here enjoy it. You have to excuse the audio as it was very windy. You may want to turn your speakers off.

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 12:56 AM

I guess as I upload the video I will ad to this post. This is video #2

http://youtu.be/nPrO-4YAaFU

Cary

2012-06-04, 12:58 AM

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_0869_70_71.jpg

Hey, I think I see myself in that shot :) I was the first person on the left side of the bridge.

gonzalu

2012-06-04, 01:09 AM

WOW... man those are terrific. I just got home (12:15am actually) and am just starting to download my cards. No way I will get to them properly this evening as I am dead tired.

Started at 5:45am this morning... met with Mark "Zee71" around 8:00 or 9:00am I guess and spotted for a bit from HoBe and ended up staying there for quite some time as Enterprise sat for the tides for a couple of hours ... Jason joined us and then we split up as Mark had a prior engagement.

Jason and I then met with Eric and his Brother at the Cross Bay Bridge and we stayed there until she passed under us. We all left the bridge in a hurry, got in our cars and drove south to Breezy Point / Fort Tilden to the Ferry Terminal next to Gil Hodges Bridge... there we met up with Moose.

From here Jason and Eric dropped out while Moose and I headed to Ft Hamilton in SI where we met up with Cary. After this we headed to NJ to the Weeks Marine termianl and finished the evening there an hour or so ago.

The people turned out in much higher numbers that I expected. Perhaps larger crowds than the arrival via the SCA.

--

Phil, feel free to use the shots I post here... if I ever get to :tongue:

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-Jxvkd7R/0/O/i-Jxvkd7R.jpg

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 01:48 AM

Video #3

http://youtu.be/hU8x3brpDnw

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 02:01 AM

Video #4

http://youtu.be/1LQ087-uO74

moose135

2012-06-04, 02:11 AM

Started out at the Marine Parkway Bridge, where I met the gang.

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-Q5bXzg4/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise001-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-x4TfTrg/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise002-XL.jpg

As Manny said, we headed to Fort Wadsworth, and met up with Cary. Here is the shuttle coming under the Verrazano Narrows Bridge. About 15 seconds after this shot, an outbound cruise ship passed in front of the shuttle, blocking our view for a short time.

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-HdKCfTD/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise003-XL.jpg

After leaving Fort Wadsworth, the three of us headed to the Weeks Marine facility in Bayonne. Ultimately, they docked the shuttle in the same spot that US 1549 was after being pulled from the Hudson.

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-MjgKsLV/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise005-XL.jpg

Getting her into place, with the Statue of Liberty, new World Trade Center, and lower Manhattan in the background.

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-s9qhLgp/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise007-XL.jpg

All tucked in for the night. The crane behind the shuttle, #533, is the same one used to pull US1549 out of the Hudson.

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-HD4fxfJ/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise011-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-7Nr2N8w/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise010-XL.jpg

Phil, feel free to use any of these.

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 02:13 AM

Video #5

http://youtu.be/W849VG4B9gw

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 02:30 AM

Video #6

http://youtu.be/o42IVtBe32A

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 02:35 AM

The last video #7

http://youtu.be/IvZsbqIht2E

Zee71

2012-06-04, 07:40 AM

Moose ...... Fantastic images. The head-on shot and the evening shots are awesome.

Phil - feel free to use any shots of mine.

yankees368

2012-06-04, 08:28 AM

We are all awesome!

Phil- absolutely, please use my shots back on page 3 if you find any are worthy.
The full album is here https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.116822525123458.17893.100003871331015&type=3&l=9467aedc32 in case there are any others you would like.

gonzalu

2012-06-04, 10:37 AM

My day from morning to evening... just a few shots... still have to go through all 2000+ images :tongue:

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-Nd4jn6d/0/L/D809637-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-b7zhZD5/0/L/D809888-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-Z3rNSwn/0/L/D800568-L.jpg

This is composited from three images... it shows what the view of Enterprise looked like for what seemed like an eternal 10 to 15 seconds!!

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-8zgR2jT/0/L/p11-L.jpg

...and she emerges from the other side :smile:

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-DnmVwZZ/0/L/D800649-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-ShfLqzX/0/L/D800682-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-s9MpHgG/0/L/D800724-L.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-rs4NJqN/0/L/D800877-L.jpg

It took a lot of turns and back and forth to get here

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-fz32zWR/0/L/D800886-L.jpg

Moose and Cary are my witnesses ...

Zee71

2012-06-04, 10:54 AM

Great work Manny!

grink

2012-06-04, 11:55 AM

Are the roads across from the Weeks Marina public streets?

Also, here are my pics from yesterday: http://www.flickr.com/photos/grink/sets/72157630035185266/

moose135

2012-06-04, 12:14 PM

Yes they are. It's part of the marine terminal, but the street is open to the public, with parking directly across from the shuttle. From Rt 440, look for Pulaski Street which takes you to Port Jersey Blvd. Google Maps shows the location as 202 Port Jersey Blvd, Jersey City, NJ 07305 but your GPS may vary.

Use these coordinates in Google Maps to view the location and check directions.
40.674973, -74.079306

moose135

2012-06-04, 01:00 PM

Tuesday's move to the Intrepid has been postponed due to weather...

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/LatestNews/june-2012/JUNE-5-JOURNEY-OF-SPACE-SHUTTLE-ENTERPRISE-TO-INTR.aspx

The planned final leg of the journey of Space Shuttle Enterprise to its new home at the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum has been postponed due to inclement weather which is delaying the prep work necessary to ferry and crane the shuttle to its final destination.

A new moving date has been tentatively set for Wednesday, June 6. As with all the phases of transport for the Enterprise, all moves are based on weather and tidal conditions and will be adjusted if conditions warrant. Intrepid will continue to monitor the forecast.

Enterprise will remain at Weeks Marine in New Jersey until it is brought up the Hudson River and craned onto the Intrepid.

Please note that all dates and times are subject to change, as this journey is weather and tide dependent. For up to the minute information, be sure to follow us on Twitter @IntrepidMuseum (http://twitter.com/#!/IntrepidMuseum) and Like us on Facebook (http://twitter.com/#!/IntrepidMuseum).

grink

2012-06-04, 01:29 PM

Thanks. I'll get some predawn shots before I have to drive up to CT tomorrow morning. I just realized I may be able to see Enterprise from my roof in Bay Ridge.

EDIT: Here is a telephoto picture from my window: http://www.flickr.com/photos/62826518@N00/7338160050

Yes they are. It's part of the marine terminal, but the street is open to the public, with parking directly across from the shuttle. From Rt 440, look for Pulaski Street which takes you to Port Jersey Blvd. Google Maps shows the location as 202 Port Jersey Blvd, Jersey City, NJ 07305 but your GPS may vary.

Use these coordinates in Google Maps to view the location and check directions.
40.674973, -74.079306

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 06:08 PM

Ok so I just ran into this story that says the shuttle hit the train bridge and caused some damage. http://jalopnik.com/5915618/a-new-york-barge-pilot-smashed-the-shuttles-wing

Although I didn't notice it at the time my pictures show it hitting the bridge.

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 06:10 PM

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CTo3-pnrj8Q/T80yhnEApyI/AAAAAAAADpQ/u8NNyM_ibJ0/w999-h669-k/spaceshuttlecrash.jpg

NIKV69

2012-06-04, 06:19 PM

Ouch!

Vinny Ohare

2012-06-04, 06:43 PM

Close up picture.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h613jQYPHFQ/T806DIAcgkI/AAAAAAAADps/HX7RcY640T8/s1107/spaceshuttlecrash1.jpg

Zee71

2012-06-04, 07:18 PM

Where the heck were the spotting boats to make sure there was clearance on both sides of the wings? Maybe some duck tape will take care of the fix.

NickPeterman

2012-06-04, 07:44 PM

Makes me sick seeing that story earlier today. Such a shame.

moose135

2012-06-04, 07:45 PM

That will buff right out...

moose135

2012-06-04, 08:01 PM

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-t8bWBVx/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise012-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-Zthwggs/0/XL/JM20120603Enterprise013-XL.jpg

sammers4247

2012-06-04, 10:57 PM

So disgusting... you'd think they'd have individuals with more than half a brain manage these projects.

gonzalu

2012-06-04, 11:06 PM

Classic Monday Morning Quarterbacking. There is no excuse, granted, but if it didn't happen, we wouldn't be going ape poopoo about it. I am sure it was tough. That being said, I did not like the wings exposed that way one bit. At least put some bubble wrap on the tips... :tongue:

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-qG2RxRW/0/O/shuttlestrike1.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-wrC7qDb/0/O/shuttlestrike2.jpg

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-sQ8HrZQ/0/X2/shuttlestrike3-X2.jpg (http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-sQ8HrZQ/0/X2/shuttlestrike3-X2.jpg)

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/Airplanes/Spotting/June-3rd-2012-Enterprise-JFK/i-KVdRdth/0/O/shuttlestrike4.jpg

NickPeterman

2012-06-04, 11:21 PM

I just can't believe that they would treat such a piece of history like that. Literally Boggles the mind.

moose135

2012-06-05, 12:41 AM

From MSNBC:

"The railroad bridge and the Cross Bay Bridge, each presented challenges," said Dennis Jenkins [a member of the United Space Alliance shuttle support team], who was on board the barge with Enterprise. "The passage through the railroad bridge was narrow with only a few feet of clearance on each wingtip, while the Cross Bay was only a few feet higher than the vertical stabilizer," he wrote in an e-mail that was shared with collectSpace.

"Mother Nature did not smile on us. Just as the barge entered the railroad bridge, the wind caught it and pushed the right wing into the bridge abutment. Fortunately, the damage seems to be cosmetic, limited to the foam that covered the wingtip. No structure or mechanisms appear to have been damaged," Jenkins wrote.

The Intrepid confirmed the damage in a statement released late Sunday. "A sudden microburst of wind, measured at 35 knots, caused the rub panel foam protective layer of the wingtip of Enterprise to graze the protective wood piling bumpers in the water designed to bumper vessels," the museum said.

Full Story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47681590/ns/technology_and_science-space/#.T82LFc0f5yJ

MORS-AB-ALTO

2012-06-05, 01:12 AM

Where's Perriwen when you need him?!:tongue:

moose135

2012-06-05, 01:23 AM

I think that was the sound of his head exploding I heard...

TJK

2012-06-05, 03:25 AM

I think that was the sound of his head exploding I heard...

This would never have happened if she was put at Johnson Space Center, or better yet, inside the Dallas Cowboys practice bubble!!! :tongue:

TJK

2012-06-05, 03:34 AM

Close up picture.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-h613jQYPHFQ/T806DIAcgkI/AAAAAAAADps/HX7RcY640T8/s1107/spaceshuttlecrash1.jpg

In the immortal words of John candy in Spaceballs, "Ooh! That's gonna leave a mark!".

TJK

2012-06-05, 09:37 AM

http://www.newyorkology.com/archives/2012/05/enterprise_barg.php

Will head down to the water probably just before 11 to get some shots of her arriving by 11:30, then leave the craning photos to those who were able to take the day off. Anyone going to be on the pier just south of Intrepid or is everyone going to the parking garage for the cruise ships just north?

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-05, 09:41 AM

That link is outdated, TJK. It's moving Wednesday I heard.

TJK

2012-06-05, 09:45 AM

Great. Thanks for saving me the early lunch, Phil.
If my work schedule allows, I may swing by your event Thursday.
Hope to meet some of you; I really enjoy all your photos.

Looks like it's going to be a short lead time on her arrival based on the weather/tides.

alberchico

2012-06-05, 10:23 AM

So does this mean that the wing will be repaired before it opens to the public on July 19 ? Could that delay the opening ?

So the grand finale is still on for Wednesday morning right ?

Matt Molnar

2012-06-05, 12:42 PM

So does this mean that the wing will be repaired before it opens to the public on July 19 ? Could that delay the opening ?
I doubt it will take long to fix.

Speedbird1

2012-06-05, 01:11 PM

Speedbird1

2012-06-05, 01:25 PM

I was planning to watch from Battery Park as she cruises up past the Statue. I might go instead to the pier on 44 St but my fear is it might be very crowded especially with school classes watching. If places by the Hudson are crowded, the view would be blocked. My plan is Battery Park then follow her to the pier. By the time I arrive, she will probably still be in the process of getting hoisted. I did the same procedure with the Concorde and had success. Any thoughts? There's also a chance that for safety reasons, the 42 St. Pier might be completely closed-off to the public. If so, everybody will be disappointed.

gonzalu

2012-06-05, 01:30 PM

It was fun but had no car and lots of biting mosquitoes and ticks.

The Mounds and Bayswater still have all the bugs you had... likely the great great great great grandbugs of yours :tongue:

Speedbird1

2012-06-05, 01:40 PM

Remember how the Radome of the Concorde's nose was smashed-off by a truck at Brooklyn's Aviator Sports. Visitors can still see the scar where the repairs were done to her needle-nose.

wunaladreamin

2012-06-05, 02:52 PM

Those are pictures of a raise in admission price to the Intrepid. First Concorde and now this. Shameful.

gonzalu

2012-06-05, 05:11 PM

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/Live-Webcams.aspx

LGA777

2012-06-05, 10:36 PM

According to both the Intrepid's website and Facebook page Wednesdays trip up the Hudson will be about 25 hours later, all the times for Wednesday seem about an hour later than the originals on Tuesday.

Space Shuttle Enterprise is still set to make her journey to the Intrepid Museum, tomorrow, Wednesday, June 6. She is scheduled to depart her current port in Bayonne, NJ at 10:15am and make her way North passing the Statue of Liberty at approximately 10:52am, Ground Zero at about 11:30am. She will reach the Museum at around 12:30pm.

Bummer for me as because of my work schedule may have to catch it at one location and not two.

Cheers

LGA777

TJK

2012-06-05, 10:39 PM

Speedbird1

2012-06-06, 05:28 AM

Perfect. I'll have plenty of time following the barge from the Statue then take the train to 42 St. Then bus-over to her pier. Even with traffic, should be plenty of time.

moose135

2012-06-06, 11:57 AM

Enterprise arrived at the Intrepid at about 11::30. Now maneuvering the crane into place. Barge with shuttle is several hundred yards upriver waiting to move into place.

pgengler

2012-06-06, 12:31 PM

Glad I was keeping an eye on the NBC video to notice it was running early. I hoofed it from work over to Pier 84 with a couple of minutes to spare before Enterprise got there. I stuck around to get shots until it started maneuvering close to the Intrepid, when it was too crowded to find a good spot (and I needed to get back to work anyway). I would have loved to stick around to see it being lifted. I'll try to get a couple of photos up this afternoon.

pgengler

2012-06-06, 01:11 PM

Three quick photos (no processing, just plain RAW-JPEG conversion) from Pier 84:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7098/7345574922_18fa80bedd_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8162/7160366733_757582dda7_z.jpg

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8161/7345575298_ac452f9509_z.jpg

TJK

2012-06-06, 01:17 PM

I went for a little less than an hour. Will upload photos tonight. I didn't have time to stick around for the hook up and craning. It was a good crowd out there for it. Hope those of you who have more time to be there today enjoy the show!

megatop412

2012-06-06, 01:27 PM

Amazing shots. Wish you were around in the 80's when I went every weekend alone to Rock Blvd. Waiting for all the 747s and 2 Concordes. It was fun but had no car and lots of biting mosquitoes and ticks. Got great Kodacolor photos.

Speedbird there is an excellent "JFK Classic" DVD out there for your needs. I too have this need from time to time to watch Sabena, Swissair, TWA, Flying Tigers, etc. fly again and highly reccommend it

ronsmytheiii_nsf

2012-06-06, 09:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX5GNKAUmfU&feature=youtu.be

eric8669

2012-06-06, 09:52 PM

here's a couple of mine.

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_1516_7_8.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_1791_2_3.jpg

moose135

2012-06-06, 10:41 PM

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-5CkJKtV/0/XL/JM20120606ShuttleEnterprise005-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-g43VZJL/0/XL/JM20120606ShuttleEnterprise007-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-2wc2dks/0/XL/JM20120606ShuttleEnterprise009-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-S4XmSdD/0/XL/JM20120606ShuttleEnterprise011-XL.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise/i-x5f5sPM/0/XL/JM20120606ShuttleEnterprise013-XL.jpg

Cary

2012-06-06, 11:23 PM

Good times with Manny and Moose on Sunday night:

2114270

2114269

TJK

2012-06-07, 12:10 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX5GNKAUmfU&feature=youtu.be

Awesome.

Also, great photos everyone, especially the guys who thought to go over to NJ for it. Good thinking.

NickPeterman

2012-06-07, 12:16 AM

Simply incredible work guys!

eric8669

2012-06-07, 09:50 AM

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_1483_4_5.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_1519_20_21.jpg

http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac155/southpawcaptures/IMG_1655_6_7.jpg

MarkLawrence

2012-06-07, 02:01 PM

Cary - how did that get on Airliners with that blue tint??? :) :) :)

gonzalu

2012-06-07, 02:08 PM

Ha! Mark, classic joke... Cary has an inside connection at A.net :P

VERY nice guys. I have yet to even download my cards... Somehow, my main computer (Lightroom DB) froze during import while I went to bed. This morning I did not have time to re-start so it will be a while for me :frown:

However, I can link some of the Instagram stuff :tongue:

http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/1fa267fab02511e188131231381b5c25_7.jpg

http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/ff44356aafca11e1aebc1231381b647a_7.jpg

http://distilleryimage6.s3.amazonaws.com/571510beadd411e180d51231380fcd7e_7.jpg

http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/5e27d024ad9511e180d51231380fcd7e_7.jpg

gonzalu

2012-06-07, 02:09 PM

And finally my priority screening from a few days ago finally got accepted :smile:

2114441

And a HUGE thanks to the A.net Head Screener if he/she is reading this :wink:

Wavefront

2012-06-07, 02:28 PM

Some photos from Jersey side (Liberty State Park).

Sorry about the quality. we did not have banners showing "Shuttle Enterprise to Intrepid" on our side. Instead we got back light, a lot of moisture from the river, and boats blocking our views. :frown: However, there was one good thing, we had the undamaged wing towards us. :wink:

http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-brB5Dnv/1/L/IMG1792-L.jpg

FDNY fire boats to lead the parade
http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-4F5jBzH/0/L/IMG1796-L.jpg

A pair of Coast Guard HH-65 did a fly over
http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-jHWj83Q/0/L/IMG17651-L.jpg

A Circle Line Cruise ship wanted to join the parade :smile:
http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-4H4jxGV/0/L/IMG17721-L.jpg

http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-3TW99pt/0/L/IMG1808-L.jpg

The last in the parade was the crane to lift Enterprise onto Intrepid
http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-r4fT2gx/0/L/IMG1831-L.jpg

megatop412

2012-06-07, 08:13 PM

What the hell, better late than never, right?
http://media9.dropshots.com/photos/476411/20120603/150645.jpg
http://media9.dropshots.com/photos/476411/20120603/150840.jpg
http://media9.dropshots.com/photos/476411/20120603/150912.jpg
Cary are you in this shot
http://media11.dropshots.com/photos/476411/20120603/150917.jpg
http://media11.dropshots.com/photos/476411/20120603/151343.jpg
http://media11.dropshots.com/photos/476411/20120603/151355.jpg
http://media11.dropshots.com/photos/476411/20120603/152447.jpg

Nothing fancy here, just Far Rock in full effect baby

gonzalu

2012-06-07, 09:55 PM

William we missed you at The Other Mounds :tongue: but thank you for the group shot! love it!

gonzalu

2012-06-07, 10:05 PM

FDNY fire boats to lead the parade

A pair of Coast Guard HH-65 did a fly over

A Circle Line Cruise ship wanted to join the parade :smile:
http://kecheng.smugmug.com/Events/Space-Shuttle-Enterprise-NYC/i-4H4jxGV/0/L/IMG17721-L.jpg

Actually, that was on purpose ... some people paid to get the privilege of cruising alongside, officially.

Wavefront

2012-06-07, 10:40 PM

Actually, that was on purpose ... some people paid to get the privilege of cruising alongside, officially.

Now I know why it was blocking our view for such a long time. :mad: I should have gone to Manhattan for better light and view. :smile:

gonzalu

2012-06-07, 11:13 PM

Now I know why it was blocking our view for such a long time. :mad: I should have gone to Manhattan for better light and view. :smile:

Yeah but then it would have been a Mad House in Manhattan... I could see from my shots across the river the crowds were insane... In NJ side, the worst crowd I experienced was at Liberty State Park, and EVERYONE had a front row seat... much unlike the Ft Wadsworth experience with 5 people deep at the wall.

All in all, it was much fun following her up river to Weekhawken and Hamilton Park

Speedbird1

2012-06-08, 06:08 AM

Had such a memorable time on Wed. Started at the Battery and saw the white shape of Enterprise emerge whenever the sun shone. Met lots of tourists. Several never heard of a Space Shuttle? Then, I took a chance and raced to Pier 84 just south of the Intrepid to see the hoisting. Got there just in time using the #1 train and the M42 bus. I was surprised that the entire pier was opened to the public except for the far end which was delegated to the news media; others were escorted out. Seeing the meticulous work of Weeks Marine was amazing. They had to lift the Orbiter in a precise way. Each time she started to rise, she had to get re-aligned. This process took well-over 3 hours and my feet hurt from standing in 1 place. It was worth the pain although several people left. The view was amazing; the only obstruction was when the huge crane swung in front of us for a short while. I was amazed that the Intrepid allowed people on the pier to see the Enterprise for free; I guess the pier is city property so they had no control. Now for the sad part, I returned on Thursday. I found most of the aft section already covered in scaffolding. Some brave guys climbed to the top of the tail fin and placed a huge US Flag. I fear, on my next visit, the entire fuselage will be scaffolded. I spoke to some workers who said it would be covered in canvas in a day or two. I have a question. Why was it turned to face New Jersey? There must be a reason. Since this tent is only temporary, we will have another chance to see her for free when she gets moved to her permanent home across 12th Ave. Of course, millions must be paid for that. So visitors will have to probably shell-out an additional $24 to enter the Space Pavilion. I congratulate the meticulous work done by Bay Crane and Weeks Marine. The damage to her wing tip was due to a wind gust.

Speedbird1

2012-06-08, 06:14 AM

No, the crowds were large but I got there about 12:30 from the Battery and managed to get a good spot by yhe Hudson.. The crowds were worse for the Tall Ship Parade and the Shuttle fly-over. The crowd on Pier 84 got crowded when they started the hoisting procedure. I was right next to the Weeks Crane; which was still there all day on Thursday as well. Maybe they're helping with the scaffolding and construction. One guy hoisted a large US Flag adjoining the tail fin.

gonzalu

2012-06-08, 07:38 AM

Weeks #533 is still there helping...

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/Live-Webcams.aspx

TJK

2012-06-08, 08:29 AM

Some of mine, from the pier just south, and through the cruise line fences just north of intrepid.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8028/7165821375_7d2e17c838_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9647374@N05/7165821375/)
RSCN8480 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9647374@N05/7165821375/) by teejsjulaw (http://www.flickr.com/people/9647374@N05/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8006/7165821163_9c44f765ea_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9647374@N05/7165821163/)
RSCN8481 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9647374@N05/7165821163/) by teejsjulaw (http://www.flickr.com/people/9647374@N05/), on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8012/7351031772_c027285c44_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9647374@N05/7351031772/)
RSCN8478 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9647374@N05/7351031772/) by teejsjulaw (http://www.flickr.com/people/9647374@N05/), on Flickr

There's a bunch more, including of the crane, the tugs, the assorted law enforcement and safety boats present, and of course the circle line boat that I wish I'd thought of to get closer still in my Flickr book in the first four pages, along with some more from Jones Beach I'd forgotten I'd taken and thus just uploaded today. Enjoy!

One last one.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7165815949_e1457bb303_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9647374@N05/7165815949/)
RSCN8463 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/9647374@N05/7165815949/) by teejsjulaw (http://www.flickr.com/people/9647374@N05/), on Flickr

CX777

2012-06-08, 09:18 AM

What an event, it was amazing to see Enterprise glide by on a barge in Hudson and then hoisted up on Intrepid. Heres my prospective...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/RChangela/80acde4d.jpg

Cheers,

TJK

2012-06-08, 09:43 AM

No, the crowds were not large. They were worse for the Tall Ship Parade and the Shuttle fly-over. The crowd on Pier 84 only a few yards from the hoisting procedure was not crowded at all. I came late and still get a great spot along the fence right next to the Weeks Crane; which was still there all day on Thursday as well. Maybe they're helping with the scaffolding and construction.

I thought the crowd was very reasonable. A nice little turnout for the middle of the day considering most people were at work, but never oppressive really at all. The city does I believe own the pier just south of the Intrepid (part of Hudson River Park I think), so in spite of the Museum's now insanely bottom-line only focused attitude, they have absolutely no right to close that pier. I enjoyed the moment of history of her arrival, and now never have to pony up the additional $20 for the "privilege" of seeing this significant piece of history. Actually my biggest concern/ annoyance or whatever about the whole Enterprise to Intrepid situation is that it means no 4th of July on the flight deck this year. My wildly better and better looking half surprised me last year with tickets to the flight deck viewing. It was one of the absolute best nights of my life, getting to show her around the museum, take a ton of photos of the aircraft in the collection (although they had the $ tent for food and beverages blocking my beloved Tomcat until after the show), then getting to see the fireworks without dealing with the insanity of 12th avenue. It was perfect, and it's a bummer that the back of the deck will be otherwise occupied for the forseeable future. I'm sure given how they run the place now, they'll probably double the VIP tickets to watch from the hangar deck areas, at least until the shuttle's off the deck. (end of mini-rant)

Anyway, it was a great day, and a fun bit of history to be able to pop in on and memorialize.

megatop412

2012-06-08, 11:51 AM

Speedbird1

2012-06-08, 12:43 PM

I researched the cost of bringing the Enterprise here. Intrepid had to pay NASA $28.8 million to cover the cost of transporting the Orbiter and transporting here to NYC. I think all the other museums were charged the same. Those museums unable to pay up-front lost-out on getting a Shuttle so things went on behind the scenes that were kept quiet. The Shuttles didn't really go to the most worthy but to the wealthiest cities and institutions. Not surprised. This is the norm especially at election time. Now, Intrepid must pay for a permanent protective pavilion which is to be built across 12th Ave. in the future; thus the high cost of visiting her inside her temporary canvas home. Thus, Intrepid really has no choice but to charge outrageous costs to visitors. They are still re-paying for thr repairs to her hull a few years ago. Contributions by entrepreneurs has dropped drastically as has city contributions. They are a well-meaning institutuion with deep financial problems. Remember the corrupt Bill White? The contract forced them to place a tent around the Orbiter so only paying guests could see her. I am still waiting to learn why she faces New Jersey. Any ideas?

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-08, 12:50 PM

What do elections have to do with any of that?

What's your source on the "behind the scenes" accusations?

Speedbagel_001

2012-06-08, 01:43 PM

It's great that so many of us were able to capture this once in a lifetime moment in New York's history. I couldn't believe I got to see it with my own eyes. I soaked it up as much as I could, because I knew that would be the last time I would see Shuttle Enterprise. Because I will NEVER pay the outrageous amount of money they will be asking for admission.

You might not have to. Check with your local public library to see if they offer museum passes to the Intrepid. That's how my wife and I got to visit the Intrepid a few years back. It was the first time in my life I was able to say "I was on the Concorde!"

megatop412

2012-06-08, 04:11 PM

very cool suggestion, speedbagel, thank you. it certainly isn't like I don't want to be around the place itself

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-08, 04:17 PM

very cool suggestion, speedbagel, thank you. it certainly isn't like I don't want to be around the place itself

Let me know if you succeed in finding passes. I have a feeling those passes may no longer exist or have expired though.

TJK

2012-06-08, 06:23 PM

In an attempt to be fair to the folks at Intrepid, I took a gander at their membership info. While a bit high for a single person, it seems like it's not TOO bad a deal. If the shuttle ends up included for members (not exactly holding my breath), it's a decent offer. They also apparently have reciprocal deals with a number of other museums, including the USS Midway museum in CA, which is a nice little angle. Admittedly, the Smithsonian is FREE for just as many priceless aviation treasures, but I did want to TRY to be fair about all the criticisms (including my own) involving Intrepid. It was the first aviation museum I ever went to, so it will always be a special place for me.

http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/Members/Become-a-Member/Categories---Benefits.aspx

moose135

2012-06-08, 06:35 PM

Admittedly, the Smithsonian is FREE for just as many priceless aviation treasures...
No, it really isn't. It is owned and operated by the federal government, so you pay for it through your taxes, whether you visit or not.

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-08, 06:37 PM

If Intrepid needs high ticket costs to offset the price of the shuttle, I'm completely fine with that. Just be honest. But most museums, even the best ones in NYC, offer a free day of the week, or have the admission as a "suggested donation" for those that simply can't afford $50.

Another beef is that when I last went to the museum....I breezed through it in 30 minutes. It feels so empty to me, without a lot of things to truly look at and enjoy, with just a bunch of photos and snoozy history lessons that can't maintain interest. It was very disappointing. Why did they get rid of the giant Iwo Jima statue? They had the space for it.

They also this piece of AA11 that I felt was important...but now is gone and I don't understand why...

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3447/3277023959_6e473dc6ff.jpg

BigAppleCoder

2012-06-08, 08:08 PM

Here are a couple of shots - I wasn't able to position myself well enough to get an unobstructed view though.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/578060_10150879604483543_953252684_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/578060_10150879604478543_2018413872_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/578060_10150879604438543_788908329_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/542188_10150879592033543_1768502818_n.jpg

https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/542188_10150879592058543_1241419073_n.jpg

Last one is from the iPhone (alas, forgetful me didn't fully charge battery)

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/578060_10150879604453543_1546493644_n.jpg

No processing other than resizing.

Be kind - as these are my first image posts EVER on an aviation site. :smile:

Speedbird1

2012-06-09, 10:33 AM

Speedbird1

2012-06-09, 10:40 AM

I was viewing at Battery Park but I noticed 2 sailing vessels blocking my view. One sailing vessel was advertising Yorkshire. The huge sail kept covering-up the view of the Enterprise. It was from www.welcometoyorkshire.com (http://www.welcometoyorkshire.com). The other sailing boat was from Mount Gay Rum, Barbados. Did these vessels pay to sail alongside the barge or did they just join-in? If they paid a fee, who got the proceeds? These ships ruined many of my photos. Did anybody else notice these ships? Why didn't the Coast Guard chase them away or are they sponsors? Curious matter nobody else brought-up.

fk6065

2012-06-09, 11:02 AM

Intrepid had to pay NASA $28.8 million to cover the cost of transporting the Orbiter and transporting here to NYC

I thought they just had to pay NASA an $8 million dollar fee.

Speedbird1

2012-06-09, 11:04 AM

Don't you remember Charles Schumer writing letters and making speeches on TV demanding that NYC get a Shuttle? Of course, it has to do with elections? Why did Texas senators make speeches demanding they get the Enterprise? They want VOTES! The background information I found on Wikipedia. Find-out why the Shuttle was forced to be positioned toward New Jersey. Like you, I was invited to an Intrepid event and got turned-away but it is still the best aerospace museum for guys like me who use public transportation and can't get to the Cradle of Aviation ( a museum which nobody hears about except on this site). And why does Jones Beach get the annual air show? They have sponsors willing to shell-out for it.

CX777

2012-06-09, 11:34 AM

Few more ...

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/RChangela/18c926ab.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/RChangela/c1bac12b.jpg

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/RChangela/fd5b9962.jpg

Cheers

gonzalu

2012-06-09, 12:16 PM

Raj, your timing for the ferry was SPOT ON... lucky dog! :tongue:

CX777

2012-06-09, 08:35 PM

Raj, your timing for the ferry was SPOT ON... lucky dog! :tongue:

Yup, and the ferry was practically empty, except this one guy who rode 4 times back and forth so he can get the shot:smile:

However I did not expect the shuttle would swing over in less than 5 min, ferry ride was 8 mins tops!

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b212/RChangela/40e72fae.jpg

Cheers

TJK

2012-06-09, 11:18 PM

Also gone from the Intrepid Hangar Deck is the large Iwo Jima replica and the cockpit of an El Al 707 amongst other things too numerous to mention. The 9-11 artifacts such as the Statue decorated with notes, medals, and other memorabilia was moved to the 9-11 Preview Site on Vesey St. and it's free!

I could be wrong but it think the el al might be at the Cradle.

Just checked. It is.
http://www.cradleofaviation.org/exhibits/aerospace_park/boeing_707/index.html

gonzalu

2012-06-10, 03:37 PM

Matt Molnar

2012-06-10, 05:25 PM

Quick handheld pano from HoBe (sort of) while waiting for Shuttle to start moving...
You were under the train bridge, Manny??!

The authorities have been notified!

Also, nice!

gonzalu

2012-06-10, 05:49 PM

What train bridge? I have no clue what you're talking about. I had a zoom lens on my point and shoot and took that from the parking lot! :P

Actually, It sucked LOL. I should have shot it with the 17mm fisheye.... Two shots, done!

megatop412

2012-06-10, 07:49 PM

Quick handheld pano from HoBe (sort of) while waiting for Shuttle to start moving...

It is very wide. Best to click on it for full size and then pan in your browser...

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-x9hJWhF/0/O/i-x9hJWhF.jpg (http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-x9hJWhF/0/O/i-x9hJWhF.jpg)

Manny that pano shot is killer. You got the Dreamlifter, the Shuttle, KAL A380, and the Far Rock Projects all in one fell swoop. Nicely done

CX777

2012-06-10, 09:33 PM

Awesome pano Manny. Last year I looked in getting that Gigapan, however must say your panos are great (St Marteen one too :-) just like that.

yankees368

2012-06-10, 09:45 PM

Dreamlifter, Space Shuttle, and A380 in one shot. Very, very nice.

gonzalu

2012-06-10, 10:28 PM

Awesome pano Manny. Last year I looked in getting that Gigapan, however must say your panos are great (St Marteen one too :-) just like that.

Raj,

Gigapan is not for everyone nor for everything :P I am not a huge fan of it in general being a purist and all. LOL. However, it does have a purpose especially in the automation part of the hobby. THAT is worth a lot.

I haven;t gotten into high resolution yet. Once the day comes, I may look more into it.

Oh and thanks for the kind words ///

TJK

2012-06-11, 12:37 AM

Dreamlifter, Space Shuttle, and A380 in one shot. Very, very nice.

Agreed. Being a rockaway resident I love this!

Speedbird1

2012-06-12, 06:55 AM

Last week, I got the Concorde, Shuttle and a Carnival Cruise line in 1 shot from Pier 84. A while back, I got the QM 2 and the Concorde in 1 shot when the ship docked in Manhattan. The Queen is immense but visitors still were more impressed with the SST ( 4 hours vs. 6 days to UK).

LGA777

2012-06-13, 08:33 AM

Finally got around to posting two of my shots, what an exciting morning for me but only made it to Battery Park as it was a workday for me, Enjoy !

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/16543-f19398dcdb7e519774a10891d616deb2953ed801/all/sort/date/page/1

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/16543-bcb6f23bbce5b8ebcd930b8d78318b1c1e5515d7/user/ronp777/sort/votes/page/1

Cheers

LGA777

megatop412

2012-06-13, 10:50 PM

some video of Enterprise passing under the Marine Parkway Bridge

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfxTYTbJzZc&list=UUmZzI6A2yrsymM6q7qw2OaQ& index=1&feature=plcp

LGA777

2012-06-15, 09:13 AM

One more of mine, I love that the Enterprise was actually sitting on it's own landing gear for the the final leg of the journey !

http://flightaware.com/photos/view/16543-dfbf213baa4bb82fa714f9271092801cb236df31/user/ronp777/sort/date/page/1

Cheers

LGA777

moose135

2012-06-15, 10:41 AM

I love the shot with the Statue of Liberty, Ron! Good stuff!

Speedbird1

2012-06-20, 06:36 AM

gonzalu

2012-06-20, 08:17 AM

http://pictures.mannyphoto.com/photos/i-HfFm98N/0/O/i-HfFm98N.jpg
http://www.intrepidmuseum.org/Live-Webcams.aspx

moose135

2012-06-20, 10:06 AM

Sad news. The Enterprise seems to be completely covered in a canvas tent so those of us who missed it are out-of-luck until the exhibit opens.
How is this "sad news"? The plan all along was to enclose the shuttle to protect it from the elements. They never intended to leave it out in the open on the carrier deck.

Speedbird1

2012-06-21, 05:31 AM

If you read carefully, I said the covering-up of the Shuttle was sad news for those who never got a chance to see it. 99% of my friends never saw it gleaming in the sunshine and now never will. Sadly, compared to philatelists and numismatists, plane-spotters like us are in a minority. In fact, when I told my friends on Monday mornings that I had a great weekend back in the 80's and 90's, watching planes arrive at JFK, they laughed at me. There was no NYC Aviation back then, so I thought I was the only one. I am happy Enterprise is being protected from the elements unlike the Concorde where visitors sit under the Delta Wing using it as a shelter from the rain and sun. The Museum promised to cover-up the prototype and they kept their promise. You must admit it looks weird now under the canvas!

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-21, 05:01 PM

You say "in the minority" as though we're under attack or something. I've never seen someone so insecure about being a planespotter before.

alberchico

2012-06-22, 11:23 PM

Sad news. The Enterprise seems to be completely covered in a canvas tent so those of us who missed it are out-of-luck until the exhibit opens. However, evidently, visitors will NOT be charged an extra $24 to visit. It appears that the cost will rise to about $30 as rumor has it.

I have a feeling that unlike the Concorde which you can go into, the novelty factor of a shuttle that never even went to space will wear off relatively quickly, even among us aviation fans. They are probably relying heavily on merchandise sales and tourists to pay those extravagant admission prices. If I want to see some serious space hardware I'll go to the Cradle of aviation museum.....

gonzalu

2012-06-23, 03:29 AM

. Sadly, compared to philatelists and numismatists, plane-spotters like us are in a minority.

Well, I have to tell you. You may not call them "spotters" but aviation enthusiasts are in the MILLIONS! Just go to St. Martin fro a picture of what regular people will do when they see a large 747 cross over them... When Air France A340 glides in, there were days where over 500 people were under the approach path alone.

Now, take any airshow: 100,000+ and there is one almost every weekend. Or go to any airport with a public viewing area... loaded with regular folks.

The Intrepid: ALWAY PACKED to the rafters, even in pouring rain.

The Smithsonian: So packed I literally said to my wife: "I have to get the eff out of here before I kill someone" ... I just couldn;t enjoy it with everyone cramped all over each other. They need to move into a larger space.

Udvar-Hazy: PACKED! Except they have more room :-)

Museum of Flight at KBFI: Pouring raining, dull Friday afternoon; PACKED!

And the above museums were mostly regular looking families and kids. All were not probably "spotters" like us, but, the enthusiasm is far from "minority"-like :tongue:

CX777

2012-06-23, 09:44 PM

And what Manny describes, is atleast double in Europe.

EHAM with not one but 2 McDonald's just to watch planes and pass weekends!

And Asia is just as crazy when it comes to spotting... look at this... they had scanners!!!

http://jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6834803&nseq=0

Raj

gonzalu

2012-06-23, 10:05 PM

That's an awesome shot, Raj...

megatop412

2012-06-23, 11:52 PM

Phil I can kind of commiserate with what Speedbird was saying, at least from a kid's point of view. Maybe it was because I didn't have a car and therefore was limited to spotting from my backyard, but I clearly remember being the ONLY kid in school that paid any kind of attention to what was flying around in the 1980's. Had I known a kid my age named Joe Pries was a couple towns over starting to do his thing I would have made some kind of effort to organize some spotting activities, but the thought that there were people out there that loved aviation like I did didn't cross my mind. Hell, I never saw anyone spotting from Bay Harbour Mall or TSS/Big Banana(now Costco) and we went there on a regular basis. I was definitely ridiculed for being into aviation instead of the things that kids followed back then like sports, Duran Duran, and Reebok sneakers. So once the internet and later this site and others took off yes I was surprised there was a crowd of us out there and that what I thought was a minority was actually a community.

PhilDernerJr

2012-06-23, 11:58 PM

Oh, I DEFINITELY understand that. But I feel that the tone of Speedbird's posts are more defensive, with an implication that we're under attack, or that people and organizations literally go out of their way to inconvenience us. That is what I dispute.

eric8669

2012-06-24, 12:34 AM

fk6065

2012-06-24, 01:46 PM

All I remember from the 80's is the 100s of cars that lineuped on the side of rockaway tpk to watch the planes. Between 97 and 2002 I spotted but never ran into anyone. It was not until 2003 when I discovered bayswater and finally saw other spotters.

In the 70's too. Before they finished Rockaway Blvd with curbs and the grass it was just sand and on a weekend there would be 100's of cars parked underthe 22's filled with families watching the planes land.

And the tow trucks loved the business they got from pulling the cars that got stuck in the sand out for a modest fee.