Jones Beach Airshow 2011 [Archive]

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-11-20, 11:48 PM

Jones Beach Airshow 2011

Starring:

United States Armed Forces

2011 Performers Include:

Military:

A-10 East Demo Team (http://www.acc.af.mil/aerialevents/a10east/index.asp)

US Army Golden Knights - Black Team (http://www.usarec.army.mil/hq/goldenknights/)

*106th ANG SAR DEMO HC-130/HH-60 (http://www.106rqw.ang.af.mil/)

† T-34C Turbomentor (http://www.airfighters.com/page.php?id=107)

† T-6B Texan II (http://www.airfighters.com/page.php?id=107)

USAF Heritage Flight (http://www.acc.af.mil/aerialevents/heritageflight/index.asp)

Civilian:

American Airpower Museum (http://www.americanairpowermuseum.com/Website/Index.aspx)

Geico Skytypers (http://geicoskytypers.com/)

Team Oracle (http://www.teamoracle.com/)

B-29 Superfortress Fifi^ (http://www.cafb29b24.org/a/B-29.htm)

B-17 Yankee Lady^ (http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org/)

B-25 Miss Hap^ (http://www.americanairpowermuseum.com/Website/Index.aspx)

Michael Goulian – Whelen Extra 330 (http://www.windmiller.com/)

David Windmiller (http://www.windmiller.com/)

John Klatt – ANG S330 (http://www.johnklattairshows.com/)

Warbirds Over Long Island (http://www.facebook.com/WarbirdsOverLongIsland)

Wounded Warrior Flight Team
(http://www.facebook.com/WoundedWarriorFlightTeam?sk=wall)
Iron Eagle Aerobatic Team (http://www.ironeagle2.com/)

† PT 728 (http://www.pt728.com/)

Static Display:

M4 Sherman, M8 Greyhound, a M 20 armored command car, Jeeps and other vintage weapons - American Airpower Museum** (http://www.americanairpowermuseum.com/Website/Index.aspx)

AAM Warbirds (http://www.americanairpowermuseum.com/Website/Index.aspx)

B-17 Yankee Lady¦♦ (http://www.yankeeairmuseum.org/)

B-25 Miss Hap¦♦ (http://www.americanairpowermuseum.com/Website/Index.aspx)

NY Guard Military Vehicles (http://dmna.state.ny.us/nyg/nyg.php)

Note: Performers are subject to change/cancel at anytime.

Key:

106th ANG Demo will be based out of FOK.

**More Information to come soon.

†Centennial Tier 1 Event Of Naval Aviation (http://www.navalaviation100.org/)

¦ Flight experiences available

♦ Event to take place at American Airpower Museum in Farmingdale, NY

^ Bombers to fly in formation over PT 728

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Fighting_falcon_51

2010-11-20, 11:50 PM

This year I have decided to put the airshow information guide on a separate website because I found it to be the quickest and most effective way of getting information out. It also gave me the tools to add more features to the guide. You can visit the site at http://www.nyasinfo.com . http://www.nyasinfo.com will probably be the primary source of information but I'll update the forums also.I would also like to thank Nycaviation for letting me put the airshow guide on these forums last year and continuing to let me post this guide!

Nick

2010-11-21, 04:18 PM

I like the way you think. It's my Birthday weekend and I can't think of a better way to spend it.

ch2tdriver

2010-11-23, 02:57 PM

puckstopper55

2010-11-24, 02:00 PM

This year being the Centenial of NAVAIR I would love to see the AAM/Organizers put together a Grumman Cat Flight in celebration of. Wildcat, Hellcat, Bearcat, and Tigercat are available. Sadly the days of a Tomcat or Panther are gone, but I'd be happy with the aforementioned!

The other thing would be to have the Horesemen back this year and fly the routine in Bearcat's!

Peter

I would love to see a Tomcat at the show, but I think it would cost too much $, even to keep a flying shell of it going.

I know a few years back we were supposed to have a B-2, but it got pulled, and when we had the F-22 there was such a huge buzz about it. We really need a high profile plane to put this year over the top.

ch2tdriver

2010-11-24, 02:37 PM

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-11-24, 02:52 PM

I would love to see this year's show push the Navy theme.

Here's my wishlist:
Since we got the 'Birds a Super Hornet Demo is hopefully in the cards along with legacy flight.
Legacy Hornet Demo
Harrier Demo
Above mentioned Cat Demo, or as many Navy warbirds as possible (F4U, TBM, PBY, S-2 Tracker etc...)
E-2 Hawkeye fly-by
EA-6B Prowler flyby
Horsemen Demo in Bearcat's or they have also done it in Corsair's

Anything I'm missing????

Pete

All those would be nice.

I expect AAM to have all their warbirds primed and ready and it would be nice if we got the F-18 legacy demo and maybe even a E-2 demo (yes they do have one). We'll get more information next month.

puckstopper55

2010-11-24, 03:10 PM

I still dont understand why they have never had the E-2 demo here! It makes no sense. I actually just got to meet 2 of the test pilots and they both said they love showing the E-2 to its hometown people. I think it would be a great oppertunity to show long island what long islanders can do.

On the same token, get an EA-18, EA-6B and of course the A-10, which is awesome!

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-11-24, 11:58 PM

rev11.24.10 -10:44PM (http://www.nyasinfo.com/guide)

Added:Guide:Static Display: M4 Sherman, M8 Greyhound, a M 20 armored command car, Jeeps and other vintage weapons – American Airpower Museum**

Added: Guide: Civilian: American Air Power Museum

Added:Guide:General Information: FAQ

More Information (http://www.nyasinfo.com)

Derf

2010-11-26, 11:09 AM

you had better scrach the Thunderbirds off the list unless you know something I don't. No Details will be given.....and NO, the Blues will not be taking their place..... Possible Snowbirds. End of line

moose135

2010-11-26, 11:40 AM

you had better scrach the Thunderbirds off the list unless you know something I don't. No Details will be given.....
Nothing official yet, but there are widespread reports that they will be doing a European tour during June/July 2011, which will cause them to miss a number of their traditional domestic shows...

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-11-26, 03:36 PM

Derf

2010-11-26, 03:47 PM

Well I have done my research and I have stated on the main site that the Thunderbirds are tentative. I'm sorry I didn't make it clear in this thread.

Also there is a zero percent chance of the Snowbirds coming because all of their North American dates are scheduled before Memorial Day.

That being said it is fair to make the assumption that it will most likely be the T-birds starring the show because the Blues are booked for 2011, the Snowbirds North American deployment is before Memorial Day, and it seems unlikely that the Red Arrows would headline or Jones Beach not having a major jet team at all.

As I said, it looks like the Thunderbirds can not make it, the Blues have other arrangements and they are trying for the Snowbirds. I would not go saying 0% as this is inside info and they have done it before when we did have a headliner. Red Arrows would be nice and if the AAM is trying a few neat ideas. ;)

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-11-26, 03:50 PM

Thanks for the info. I guess we'll find out in the next couple of days.

NLovis

2010-11-26, 04:08 PM

Cant wait already. I would LOVE to see an F-22 demo this year

ch2tdriver

2010-11-26, 05:03 PM

It wouldn't be the end of the world if we didn't have a team. It might even keep down the crowds somewhat. I think it would open up the show to more acts and change it up a bit from past years. More individual military demo's, more warbirds, etc....

There are some civilian flight teams I'd love to see as well. The Patriot Jet Team, or the new Heavy Metal Jet Team which is Snort Snodgrass new gig. I love there 'arctic' camo on their T33 and L39's. Then there is always the Starfighters!!

I just hope that someone at the top of the planning chain doesn't get the foolhardy idea in their head "No jet team...no show". That has happened to some other shows in the past and caused it's demise in some cases.

Pete

Gerard

2010-11-26, 06:18 PM

It wouldn't be the end of the world if we didn't have a team. It might even keep down the crowds somewhat. I think it would open up the show to more acts and change it up a bit from past years. More individual military demo's, more warbirds, etc....

Id love to see more of the big heavy metal like A/C had. Bombers, tankers and transports and maybe some civilian big metal also.
And of course some more helo demos. :biggrin::wink:

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-11-26, 09:28 PM

I just hope that someone at the top of the planning chain doesn't get the foolhardy idea in their head "No jet team...no show". That has happened to some other shows in the past and caused it's demise in some cases.

Pete

Well as of now the show is a go but there is still a ton of time and stuff can change at a moment's notice.

Let's hope for the best and hopefully we'll get the Thunderbirds.

ch2tdriver

2010-12-06, 06:55 PM

OK....so it's now official.....no team for Jones Beach this year. ASB.TV has the official 2011 scheds posted for all 3 NA jet teams. As stated here the 'Birds are headed to Europe after the USAFA on the 25th.

Now we get to be surprised.......

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-06, 07:48 PM

rev12.6.10 -6:44PM (http://www.nyasinfo.com/guide)

Removed:Guide:Starring: USAF Thunderbirds
Added:Guide:Starring: United States Armed Forces
Added:Guide:Military: US Army Golden Knights

More Information (http://www.nyasinfo.com)

Update:Update: There are conflicting reports the the Snowbirds are actually going to be at Jones Beach. The Snowbirds schedule shows them to be at St Hubert, QC on the 28-29, but ICAS shows them to be at Jones Beach. I wouldn't get my hopes up high though because it is probably an error because the Snowbirds will actually be attending the 2012 Jones Beach Airshow.

Update: ICAS corrected the above error. No Snowbirds this year.

Derf

2010-12-06, 09:56 PM

It looks likes the Snowbirds will not be attending

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-06, 10:36 PM

Yeah it looks like it.

Hopefully this will open up the show to new performers and maybe we will get acts that are out of the ordinary for Jones Beach.

Gerard

2010-12-06, 10:56 PM

Whats the Blue Angel show in Millville, NJ on May 28/29th?

Derf

2010-12-06, 11:10 PM

Whats the Blue Angel show in Millville, NJ on May 28/29th?

A bunch of Navy guys get together and fly really close together and do some loops rolls and turn jet fuel into allot of noise...... I am just saying....

moose135

2010-12-06, 11:10 PM

Whats the Blue Angel show in Millville, NJ on May 28/29th?
There is an annual air show (http://www.millvilleairshow.com/) at Millville Airport.

Gerard

2010-12-06, 11:42 PM

There is an annual air show (http://www.millvilleairshow.com/) at Millville Airport.

Thanks John (no Thanks Derf :biggrin:), Was wondering since Millville is a small airport. Depending on how JB turns out looks like I'll do AC again.

Steven Holzinger

2010-12-07, 12:14 AM

Millville may be a small airport but the Blues do stage out of there...

Big Tim #70

2010-12-07, 11:36 AM

I'm hoping the ACC steps up and gives us some acts. It's a shame we don't have a jet team this year for such a large Airshow.

If we get a few burner acts I'll be happy though.

Wish List:

Super Hornet
Viper West
F-22
CF-18! :wink:

Realistic? Probably not, but hopeful!

Gerard

2010-12-07, 07:34 PM

I have the Bethpage FCU Air Show page on Facebook and I just saw a post "Working on establishing a wonderful show for this year that will also celebrate the 100th Anniversary of
Naval Aviation. Stay tuned".
Nice. :biggrin::cool:

Chris S

2010-12-07, 09:01 PM

FYI- I just read over on the Fencecheck "2011 Military Performers" forums that an
MV-22 Osprey is tentatively scheduled to be on static display at the Jones Beach Air show.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that this static display turns into an actual "demo" possibly :wink:
Here's the link:
http://www.fencecheck.com/forums/index.php/topic,21495.msg263539.html#msg263539

I'm also hoping that since they weren't able to get the USAF Thunderbirds this year,
that they'll be able to book the NEW Civilian 5-ship "Heavy Metal Jet Team" for 2011 !! :cool:
Here's a link for their brand new website incase you'd like to see their cool teaser video:
http://www.heavymetaljetteam.com/

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-07, 11:32 PM

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Gerard

2010-12-07, 11:52 PM

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Sure static display but it still has to fly in and out to go on that display!! :biggrin::cool:

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-07, 11:58 PM

Sure static display but it still has to fly in and out to go on that display!! :biggrin::cool:

Yup, I can't wait to see it.

NLovis

2010-12-08, 12:10 AM

I hope we get some team. Somebody slipped in not bookng a performance for jones beach. This is one of their biggest shows each year and would be a huge shame if we got nothing.

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-08, 12:17 AM

I hope we get some team. Somebody slipped in not bookng a performance for jones beach. This is one of their biggest shows each year and would be a huge shame if we got nothing.

It's not really anybodies fault for not having a demo team. The T-birds are being deployed to Europe, the Blues had their schedule set since 2009, the Snowbirds are doing all out of Canada shows before Memorial day, and teams such as the Red Arrows or Brazilian Smoke Squadron are hard to get. That's just how things fell into place this year.

There have been major airshows without a demo team for the same reason and it has still been successful.

Also as of now we have have an MV-22 static display, US Army Golden Knights, and the AAM. It's getting better by the day if you ask me.

NLovis

2010-12-08, 12:45 AM

Get us an F-22 at least. Something we dont see here often :cool: I enjoy the blues and all of them. It wont be the same without a demo team.

puckstopper55

2010-12-08, 02:39 PM

Why has it been so impossible to get a MV-22 demo at Jones beach!? We have been drooling for this for years. I think the closest we came was a mini demo at Eisenhower park.

Tom_Turner

2010-12-10, 01:37 AM

Still waiting for a B-52 / B-17 heritage flight.... Could we at least get a Nimrod fly by? Not complaining.. its a great show, but personally its nice to see something different.

Gerard

2010-12-10, 08:46 PM

Why has it been so impossible to get a MV-22 demo at Jones beach!? We have been drooling for this for years. I think the closest we came was a mini demo at Eisenhower park.

Which was friggin awesome (along with the 2 Cobras and Sea Knight)!! :smile::cool:

fk6065

2010-12-10, 10:35 PM

Wow! Over five months to the show and we are already on page three.

Not to be a pessimist but the list for the V-22 is tentative. Also I know there is room at the beach to land but after what happened last year in Staten Island I would guess they are going to be more careful with there landings.

I missed Eisenhower Park last year but heard it was quite the rotor wash. Picture that in the sand.

Besides I am sure the 106th wants to keep their spot at the west end.

They also list the static for Atlantic City. Where would they put it there?

Don't get me wrong I would love to see them, let alone catch them flying in or taking off. Or staging out of Republic. Last year I rode in to Fleet Week just to catch the Thunderchickens in the air.

I am just not getting my hopes up.

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-10, 11:30 PM

All very good points Fred.

I guess we'll see how they are going to figure it all out as it gets closer to the show.

Gerard

2010-12-10, 11:59 PM

I missed Eisenhower Park last year but heard it was quite the rotor wash. Picture that in the sand.

Actually it wasnt that bad even with four copters. The LZ was a large grassy field and the crowds were kept at a relatively safe distance when they both arrived and departed. I think
the problems in SI and Flushing Meadow was that they used baseball fields with lots of dry dirt. That is wonderful for rotorwash. :tongue:
When the copters departed they returned for low and fast fly-bys. The Cobras and Sea Knight came in together then about almost a minute later the Osprey roared in over the field,
then after clearing the e LZ did a quick turn and climb and was gone. Quite impressive.
Hopefully they do it again.

Chris S

2010-12-11, 10:46 PM

Yeah, there were no problems at all last year at Eisenhower.
It was a great Demo and I hope they do it again in 2011 too !! :biggrin:

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-22, 12:14 AM

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Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-22, 07:27 PM

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1911 Ely-Curtiss Pusher update (http://nyasinfo.com/?p=277)

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Added: Media Information (http://www.nyasinfo.com/mediainfo) : Centennial Media Kit 2011

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NLovis

2010-12-24, 02:24 AM

Rats! no F-22 on that. Oh well still got time. Hey do you think it would be possible to contact the heavy metal demo team about the show?

Derf

2010-12-24, 11:16 AM

Rats! no F-22 on that. Oh well still got time. Hey do you think it would be possible to contact the heavy metal demo team about the show?

Like who? I think the already did that

Fighting_falcon_51

2010-12-24, 11:23 AM

We wont find out about any official ACC schedules until March.

As far as the Heavy Metal Jet Team I'm pretty sure they are already aware that the T-birds aren't coming.

moose135

2010-12-24, 11:28 AM

Rats! no F-22 on that. Oh well still got time.
The ACC doesn't post their schedule until much later in the year - their schedule page (http://www.acc.af.mil/aerialevents/demoteamschedule.asp) says it should be approved February 1, but in the past they have only posted a month or two at at time. While we may hear some info and rumors from other sources, we may not see the official schedule for May until March or later.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-01-10, 08:54 PM

USN Blue Angels & CAF Snowbirds will perform in the 2012 airshow.

GrummanFan

2011-01-10, 11:12 PM

2012? But I want them now! :tongue:

fk6065

2011-01-13, 03:17 PM

Received this today;

Hi Fred,Bethpage FCU Air Show wrote: "Fred we will announce the line up shortly still working on the details. "
For what it is worth.

NLovis

2011-01-13, 09:21 PM

The ACC doesn't post their schedule until much later in the year - their schedule page (http://www.acc.af.mil/aerialevents/demoteamschedule.asp) says it should be approved February 1, but in the past they have only posted a month or two at at time. While we may hear some info and rumors from other sources, we may not see the official schedule for May until March or later.

I did not know that. Guess its more waiting then.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-01-19, 08:34 PM

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1911 Ely-Curtiss Pusher update

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Fighting_falcon_51

2011-01-20, 05:29 PM

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Added:Performers: Civilian : Team Oracle

Added: Media Information (http://nyasinfo.com/mediainfo/): About Sean Tucker

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Derf

2011-01-21, 01:26 AM

As you would imagine I am very happy to hear this.... Sean is the man!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-02, 07:16 PM

Looks like we're not going to get the F-22 Demo Team this time. They'll be at an airshow in Hawaii during Memorial Day weekend.

Chris S

2011-02-02, 09:45 PM

Ken,
Was just curious where you heard that info about the F-22 being in Hawaii for the Memorial Day weekend,
because I just checked the ACC website and it said the 2011 schedule wouldn't be posted until March ??:confused:

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-03, 09:42 PM

Got the information from ICAS' website.

http://www.airshows.aero/OrgProfile/23322

Gerard

2011-02-03, 11:15 PM

Got the information from ICAS' website.

http://www.airshows.aero/OrgProfile/23322

Nice. Hawaii AND an Air show!!!! :cool::smile:

Chris S

2011-02-05, 05:21 PM

Got the information from ICAS' website.

http://www.airshows.aero/OrgProfile/23322

Thanks for the link Ken.
I see there's only 2 shows listed so far for the F-22 Demo in 2011 on the ICAS site,
so I guess we won't know their official schedule until it's posted on the ACC website :wink:

Chris S

2011-02-07, 12:56 PM

AWESOME news ... BOTH the F-22 and A-10 Demo teams will be at Jones Beach this year !! :cool:
It was just posted on the official ACC website:
http://www.acc.af.mil/aerialevents/demoteamschedule.asp

steve1840

2011-02-07, 01:23 PM

Knowing this, I may have to make the drive down to Jones Beach this year to catch the show.

puckstopper55

2011-02-07, 01:38 PM

i hope the ACC didnt make a mistake, but if this is accurate, this show is now all about the F-22. Maybe we can get an extended demo? Think it will still be at ISP?

SCOTYDEMCO

2011-02-07, 02:05 PM

No mistake. Don't be suprised to get some metal from the Navy too..

ch2tdriver

2011-02-07, 03:01 PM

Yes! Now I am excited as I have not seen the Raptor since '07. Add the Super Bug and it will shape up to be a great show as usual.

I'm hoping that with a jet team not occupying the main terminal ramp, that the Raptor will stage out of FRG. This will let them be parked right under the nose of airport ops all the time. I know the Navy and A-10 usualy park at Sheltair.

Pete

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-07, 11:40 PM

I'm very happy I was wrong about the F-22!

Also sorry for the delayed forum update.

rev 1.20.2011-3:21PMEST (http://nyasinfo.com/?p=330)

Added:Performers:Military: F-22 Demo Team

Added:Performers:Military: A-10 East Demo Team

Added: Event Notes

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moose135

2011-02-09, 04:41 PM

Today's Newsday (online...) has a story about the air show, saying that for the first time since it began in 2004, neither the Thunderbirds nor Blue Angels will be performing, due to the T-Birds overseas trip. The piece ends with this...

To help fill the empty spot, the East Farmingdale-based American Airpower Museum is putting together a flight of historic bombers, a B-29, B-17 and B-25. The B-29, nicknamed Fifi, is the only B-29 in flying condition in the world.I've been hearing rumors about Fifi, but this is the first I've seen it in print!

ETA - I've had this confirmed by a source...

steve1840

2011-02-09, 05:13 PM

Today's Newsday (online...) has a story about the air show, saying that for the first time since it began in 2004, neither the Thunderbirds nor Blue Angels will be performing, due to the T-Birds overseas trip. The piece ends with this...

I've been hearing rumors about Fifi, but this is the first I've seen it in print!

ETA - I've had this confirmed by a source...

I definitely am finding time to make it down to Long Island for Jones beach for the airshow this year now!! The thought of the F-22 beingthere got me really interested, but now I am drooling. What a site that is going to be!

Derf

2011-02-09, 06:00 PM

This years night under the stars is looking good!!! Now I have to see if they will allow us to do it again! :cool:

ch2tdriver

2011-02-09, 07:12 PM

Now all we need is a B-52 FLY-BY!!! Then we'll have all the Boeing heavies!!:cool:

Pete

steve1840

2011-02-09, 07:56 PM

This years night under the stars is looking good!!! Now I have to see if they will allow us to do it again! :cool:

At the risk of sounding stupid.......what is the "night under the stars"?

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-09, 08:06 PM

At the risk of sounding stupid.......what is the "night under the stars"?

http://nycaviation.com/forum/threads/36208-History-Under-the-Stars-2010-(Nighttime-Airshow-Photoshoot)

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-09, 11:45 PM

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NLovis

2011-02-09, 11:53 PM

This years night under the stars is looking good!!! Now I have to see if they will allow us to do it again! :cool:

Hmmm. Think I have a shot at getting in this year derf?

I'm very happy I was wrong about the F-22!

Also sorry for the delayed forum update.

rev 1.20.2011-3:21PMEST (http://nyasinfo.com/?p=330)

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Added: Event Notes

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WOOOOOOOOOOOOO F-22 F-22! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Derf

2011-02-10, 01:09 AM

No idea, I had not seen much of your night work and I have no idea what the competition will be like or how much of it there will be. I also have to make sure first we can even do it. If we can do it, it is like the Lotto....you have to be in it to win it!

NLovis

2011-02-10, 06:00 PM

Well derf 9/10 of my spotting is night shots inside JFK since i work the evening shift most of the time and with the sun setting early at this time of the year. I have stuff all around the forum posted. Take a look around one day and watch for new posts as I spot more.

moose135

2011-02-10, 06:55 PM

Nick, it would probably be a lot easier for us to evaluate samples of your work if you point to where you have them posted (Flikr, etc) rather than relying on us to find your photos scattered around the forums.

NLovis

2011-02-12, 02:15 AM

I dont have them anywhere else aside from NYCA. Im a one place master. Give me some time and ill put a few up here for ya.

Derf

2011-02-12, 09:25 AM

If we are able to do the event again this year there will be a formal release with instructions on how to enter. It would include you sending in 3 photos to be judged on quality. It is not how many megapixels but rather composition, proper exposure, and artistic quality. For your best chances I would start posts asking "how can I improve my night shots" and put examples.... Many examples. The resources on this forum are incredible and not to use it would be a crime. If your at JFK every night you stand an excellent shot of getting some outstanding captures. Enter your 3 best (if the event is allowed) and cross your fingers. This is how you stand the best chance of finding out if your that good, or improving so you are that good very quickly. I wish you luck but can not play favorites....

hiss srq

2011-02-12, 10:15 AM

Any ideas on if the Raptor will stage from JFK?

moose135

2011-02-12, 10:52 AM

It was at ISP last time. They wanted to use Gabreski, but had issues with the condition of taxiways...

Derf

2011-02-12, 11:37 AM

As I understand it, Fifi will be at the terminal this year....as always, this is subject to change

fk6065

2011-02-12, 02:30 PM

Well at least the show is getting better with the A-10 & the F-22.

I still wish that somehow they could get a fly by or two of the still flying Grumman birds or an E-2 demo. When you think of the contributions LI has made to Naval Aviation it would be great to see these planes over Jones Beach.

I can't wait to see the B-29 that should be awesome.

Nice to have some aviation news. I was out a Republic yesterday and it was a ghost town.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-14, 07:53 PM

Some exciting airshow news coming soon!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-14, 07:58 PM

New performers listed:

USAF Heritage Flight

B-17

B-25

Mike Goulian

John Klatt

David Windmiller

106th ANG

I'll post more info as it comes!

PhantomII

2011-02-14, 08:06 PM

Speaking to someone today, it was mentioned "Fifi doesn't usually travel alone..." Could the CAF bring their B-24 along for the air show? They don't have a 2011 schedule for either aircraft posted yet on their web site. Stay tuned, this might get interesting.

Steven Holzinger

2011-02-14, 08:45 PM

Usually Fifi comes with the B-24. So yeah it's possible. It sure looks like I will have to come up for Sunday's show.

Oh if you guys haven't seen Michael Goulian fly, you will REALLY enjoy it! Here's a little preview...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKI-80Jtu74

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-14, 08:51 PM

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✪ As of now there is no information on which groups/organizations the B-17 or B-25 will come from.

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moose135

2011-02-14, 09:00 PM

As of now there is no information on which groups/organizations the B-17 or B-25 will come from.
"Yankee Lady" has been here the past few years, I suspect she'll be back. Is the B-25 a second one, in addition to "Miss Hap"?

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-14, 09:07 PM

Yes I agree with you, I also suspect it will be the Yankee Lady. As far as the B-25 I am unsure if it will be just the museum's B-25, an additional B-25, or either or. I'll have to wait on clarification on that.

Chris S

2011-02-15, 01:33 AM

I'm sure the NAVY will be sending either their F-18 Legacy Hornet or the Super Hornet Demo team,
but I've also heard rumors that the CF-18 Demo Team might be back again this year too :wink:
Hopefullly we'll hear MORE news about the show soon, so keep your fingers crossed !! :cool:

NLovis

2011-02-15, 03:03 PM

This is shapping up like it did last year. Cant wait. This year I can actually get some quality photos.

steve1840

2011-02-15, 03:07 PM

This is shapping up like it did last year. Cant wait. This year I can actually get some quality photos.

This is beginning to sound like it will be a heck of a yearto start attending this airshow. And I agree with you Nick, that I am glad to have some good equipment to get some good shots. I definitely have to get out some more to practice some techniques to ensure I get some great shots at Jones Beach.

Chris S

2011-02-15, 05:59 PM

New performers listed:

USAF Heritage Flight

I'll post more info as it comes!

Hey Ken, where did you hear the info about the USAF Heritage Flight
because I didn't see it posted on the official ACC site for Jones Beach yet ??

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-15, 09:33 PM

Hey Chris,

I found that information in the press release. (http://www.prlog.org/11298737-8th-annual-bethpage-federal-credit-union-2011-air-show-at-jones-beach.html)

Details seem sketchy so I wouldn't put my money on it but since it was in the press release I had to post it unless I had definite proof it wasn't going to happen.

Chris S

2011-02-16, 08:53 PM

Thanks for the link Ken.
Hopefully the Official Heritage flight info will be posted on the ACC webite soon also.:cool:
I would guess it will probably be the F-22, A-10, and Snort flying Chris' P-51 most likely,
especially IF Snort's in town that weekend with the Heavy Metal Jet Team also !! :wink:
BTW, since the Binghamton Air show in August has just been canceled, I'm REALLY hoping the
Heavy Metal Jet Team will be able to replace that show in the NE with Jones Beach in May now !!
Keep your fingers crossed everyone !!!

Chris S

2011-02-18, 01:31 PM

I see the official Jones Beach Air Show site has updated it's homepage
that now includes the announcement of the F-22 and A-10 Demos also,
BUT they still haven't updated the actual performers page yet for 2011.
I guess they're still working on a new logo design for their 2011 Air Show
also and wonder if it will feature the F-22 on it too perhaps ?? Ha !! :wink:
http://www.jonesbeachairshow.com/

wunaladreamin

2011-02-19, 11:23 AM

Who cares who else comes? Fifi is coming! Grandpa is going to be stoked!!!

NLovis

2011-02-21, 01:13 AM

Who cares who else comes? Fifi is coming! Grandpa is going to be stoked!!!

Holy crap its wunala. Hey man what you been up to?

Nick

2011-02-21, 09:57 AM

Sweet, an HH-60!! Oh, I mean, sweet an F-22!!! Seeya's there.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-21, 11:20 PM

History Under the Stars 2011 (http://nycaviation.com/forum/threads/39290-History-Under-the-Stars-2011)

wunaladreamin

2011-02-22, 09:08 AM

Holy crap its wunala. Hey man what you been up to?

I was abducted by rats. Rats!

Derf

2011-02-22, 11:06 AM

F-22's will be based at KISP...sorry folks

F-18 Demo will attend.....let the speculation begin.....Navy? Canadians? muahahahah

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-22, 12:23 PM

I'm hoping for a Super Hornet Legacy flight with the AAM's F4U Corsair.

Derf

2011-02-22, 12:49 PM

You and me both!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-22, 12:50 PM

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moose135

2011-02-22, 01:30 PM

I'm hoping for a Super Hornet Legacy flight with the AAM's F4U Corsair.
That's so 2009... :cool:

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Air-Shows/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2009/JM20090522AAMLegacyFlight001/543318357_d5z9g-L-3.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/Airplanes/Air-Shows/Jones-Beach-Air-Show-2009/JM20090523LegacyFlight001/545050566_teLUJ-L-2.jpg

Derf

2011-02-22, 01:42 PM

Yes, But now they have one that looks like the Cosair with the same paint job!

moose135

2011-02-22, 02:19 PM

Yes, But now they have one that looks like the Cosair with the same paint job!
You sure? According to this (http://www.hrana.org/documents/HeritagePaintProject.pdf) no Super Hornets are scheduled to receive heritage colors. In fact, except for that fugly digital scheme that one SH got, no two-seat Hornets are listed as getting special colors (save one Growler) I haven't seen any photos to show otherwise. VFA-122, which performs the demo, is getting a three-toned Hornet, but it is a single-seat F/A-18C (http://community.warplanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/11_22D1.jpg).

Derf

2011-02-22, 02:54 PM

I never said super hornet... I am looking for the 100th ann Corsair blue hornet! That would be BETTER than some plain super hornet!

NLovis

2011-02-22, 03:18 PM

I was abducted by rats. Rats!

Rats!
Well we can always drive down to ISP to watch them. It isnt like its that far. Well at least for me anyway.

puckstopper55

2011-02-22, 03:24 PM

Rats!
Well we can always drive down to ISP to watch them. It isnt like its that far. Well at least for me anyway.

If they park it at the same spot at last time, you have to take a back road in. Its not through the main airport entrance. Its actually right near the airport firehouse.

NLovis

2011-02-22, 03:31 PM

If they park it at the same spot at last time, you have to take a back road in. Its not through the main airport entrance. Its actually right near the airport firehouse.

Well thats a good debacle we would be in. It would be a good idea to try and beat them into ISP so we can catch them on arrival. Though its still a ways off.

puckstopper55

2011-02-23, 11:22 AM

Well thats a good debacle we would be in. It would be a good idea to try and beat them into ISP so we can catch them on arrival. Though its still a ways off.

If I remember correctly, last time they flew in late Thursday night, and flew out early Monday.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-23, 11:59 AM

Back in 2008 they were doing about 2 flybys a day over FRG from Thursday (or maybe Wednesday) - Sunday. Hopefully they'll do it again but it depends on fuel and other factors.

Chris S

2011-02-23, 11:20 PM

It would be great to see the Super Hornet Demo at Jones Beach this year,
BUT I'd also like to see them send this "Corsair Blue" Centennial Legacy Hornet
from VFA-106 to do a demo and a Naval Legacy flight with an F4U Corsair too !!
Now THAT would be a VERY COOL looking Legacy flight !! :cool::wink:

VFA-106's Centennial Legacy Hornet
http://www.amv83.fr/Navycag/Centenial/F-18%20Hornet/VFA%20106/VFA106Centennial-11.jpg

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-02-27, 06:19 PM

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NLovis

2011-03-01, 03:09 AM

Wohoo I can attempt to fix the blurr shots I obtained last year with my film camera. I am really looking foward to this year. :biggrin:

puckstopper55

2011-03-01, 11:32 AM

Has anyone checked out the official web page, and viewed this page "http://www.jonesbeachairshow.com/aircraft_performers.html" ? Is this new, or has it been this way for a while (in anticipation of them getting the T-Birds) and have not updated since?

At first I thought it was last years page, but last year we had the Blues .. I looked at the Snowbirds schedule, and they have nothing scheduled for the last half of May.

I know we have said that the T-Birds will be in Europe for Memorial Day, but their schedule has no shows for that weekend ..

moose135

2011-03-01, 11:43 AM

I don't know what the deal is with that page - looks like it has the list from 2009, with the Thunderbirds, Snowbirds, and Horsemen, none of which are scheduled to be here this year. This page: http://www.jonesbeachairshow.com/aircraft.html looks to be more accurate, listing the F-22 and A-10 demo performances.

The Thunderbirds have Memorial Day weekend as open on their schedule as that is when they will be traveling to Europe. They perform their standard flyover of the USAFA graduation on Wednesday, May 25, then their next show is the weekend after Memorial Day, June 4 & 5 in Turkey. That's a 10 day block of time to pack up, move everything across the pond, and get set up to perform over there. Not that I'm happy about it, but that's life...

Chris S

2011-03-01, 12:33 PM

That's weird that the old performers page from 2009 is still coming up for you??
because when I just clicked on the performers link page I see it has recently
been updated with all the 2011 scheduled performers so far.
Try this link instead:
http://www.jonesbeachairshow.com/aircraft.html

Edit: Oops !! For some reason I didn't see your post Moose until after I posted mine !!!
I guess I had the page open too long before answering !!
Sorry about that !!!

Chris S

2011-03-01, 12:50 PM

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-03-01, 01:33 PM

There is a glitch on the site and the 2009 page will randomly come up.

Chris S

2011-03-01, 03:17 PM

BTW, here's the show's new logo for 2011 with the Raptor on it
and I noticed it doesn't say "New York Air Show" on it anymore ??
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/188468_191659954200887_104484192918464_543050_1224 66_n.jpg

steve1840

2011-03-01, 03:20 PM

BTW, I was listening to Warbird Radio before and they were interviewing
The President of the CAF, and he mentioned they were happy they'll be
bringing their B-29 "FIFI" back to Long Island for the Jones Beach show,
AND he's also hoping to do a special photo flight over the Statue of Liberty too!!
I thought Fred would be especially HAPPY to hear about that possibility !! :wink:

Drool..... Man, I wonder if that would be the same day as the fly-by at the beach or seperate. Would hate to be at Jones Beach to watch the show and miss out on a chance to get her in a photo flying past the Statue of Liberty.

puckstopper55

2011-03-01, 03:43 PM

this is a sick logo .. I guess the F-22 is the headliner and we shouldn't hope for another name .. I have a sneaky feeling we may get some more metal though.

fk6065

2011-03-01, 11:35 PM

On their FaceBook Page Bethpage Airshow has the following,

This year, the Bethpage Federal Credit Union Air Show at Jones Beach will help commemorate America’s Centennial of Naval Aviation – a true milestone for our country! With this, we are pleased to officially announce this year’s lineup for the Air Show, taking place Memorial Day weekend on Saturday, May 28, 2011 and Sunday, May 29, 2011, from 10:00 AM – 3:00 PM.

To date, the following world-class military performers scheduled to perform include:
U.S. Airforce F22 Raptor, U.S. Army Golden Knights Parachute Team, A-10 East Demo Team, United States Air Force Heritage Flight, 106th New York Air National Guard Air Flight Rescue Demo HC-130/HH-60, World War II B17 Flying Fortress, World War II B25 Mitchell Bomber, World War II B29 Superfortress.

The leading civilian performers to date include:Sean D. Tucker – Team Oracle, John Klatt – National Guard Reserve, GEICO Skytypers, David Windmiller, American Air Power Museum Warbirds, and Mike Goulian.

Stay tuned for more exciting details about this year’s performers and show lineup!

and

Did you know that on January 18, 1911, a civilian pilot named Eugene Ely became the first person to ever land an aircraft on board a ship, flying a Curtiss pusher onto a makeshift wooden platform constructed on the armored cruiser Pennsylvania in San Fransisco? Then, on May 8, 1911, Pre-World War I, Capt. Washington Irving Chambers, United States Navy, officer in charge of aviation, prepared contract specifications for the U.S. Navy's first aircraft to be purchased from aviator and inventor Glenn H. Curtiss, making this day the official birthday of U.S. Naval Aviation. Now, 100 years later, Naval Aviation has scored an impressive list of achievements in both peace and war and the Centennial of Naval Aviation, kicked off this past January, includes a year-long celebration of events and commemorations including airshows, art exhibits, flyovers and tactical demonstrations. The Bethpage Federal Credit Union Air Show at Jones Beach is proud to be included as one of the U.S. Navy's official 2011 Centennial Events, one of only a few East Coast air show stops for the Centennial Flight!

For more information on the Centennial of Naval Aviation, go to www.facebook.com/navalaviation100 (http://www.facebook.com/navalaviation100) or www.navalaviationcentennial.org (http://www.navalaviationcentennial.org/) .

They do a lot of talking about Naval Aviation but so far it is all Air Force. Guess we will see.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-03-03, 08:42 PM

The 2011 Navy Tacdemo schedule for March is now posted: http://www.navy.mil/navco/airshows/TACDEMO.pdf

As you can see they will only be posting the schedules one month at a time.

Chris S

2011-03-04, 02:08 AM

WOW, that's weird the NAVY will only be releasing their TAC Demo schedule info month to month now ?? WTF ?? :confused:
The ACC didn't have a problem posting half of their 2011 Demo schedule already and will post the other half later this month !!

puckstopper55

2011-03-04, 11:14 AM

Does the term Tacdemo imply something different other then a what we have seen at Jones Beach before or is this the usual 10-15 minute air show routine?

Chris S

2011-03-04, 12:20 PM

The Navy TAC Demos are just the usual 10 - 15 minute demos flown by
the F-18 Legacy Hornet & Super Hornets from VA-106 and VFA-122.
The Navy usually posts the TAC DEMO schedule for the entire year at once,
but now it seems they're only going to post it from month to month this year :confused:
FYI- I emailed the PAO of VFA-106, so I'm hoping he'll get back to me and explain why they had a change their policy this year as to when the schedule is released.

Derf

2011-03-05, 01:05 PM

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/New-KFRG-shots/3225429_zWnQe#1206411735_TMqhFsorry, misspost

Hell, If I am going to have a misspost, it might as well contain a cool airshow photo I took last year!
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Sean-Tucker-52410/Sean-Tucker-New-Oracle/878065486_pJedx-L.jpg

I LOVE THE DRAMA!

wunaladreamin

2011-03-05, 02:44 PM

Dammit Fred, those air-to-air shots still leave me drooling!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-03-05, 03:03 PM

I felt the same way when I saw their schedule.

Upon research I found this: http://www.ndbi.utk.edu/Blog/Posts/congress_fails_more_often_than_not_in_doing_its_on ly_job_paying_the_bills.aspx

chrisparypa

2011-03-05, 03:52 PM

any word on David Windmiller Schedule ?? unfortunately JB is the only place where you can see him flying... is he confirmed ??

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-03-05, 04:01 PM

Yes! Windmiller is confirmed!

moose135

2011-03-05, 07:16 PM

Dammit Fred, those air-to-air shots still leave me drooling!
And how is that different from any other time??? :biggrin:

NLovis

2011-03-05, 11:57 PM

Dammit Fred, those air-to-air shots still leave me drooling!

Your not the only one. I envy what he can do over there. That shot is amazing.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-03-06, 12:01 PM

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Derf

2011-03-06, 03:05 PM

Thanks guys... here are a few more that I liked
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Sean-Tucker-52410/Sean-Tucker-Lower-Manhattan/878090645_jB8Y2-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Sean-Tucker-52410/Backlit/878189314_X6SFG-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Sean-Tucker-52410/IMG9140/878207170_ruZ6b-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Sean-Tucker-52410/IMG8134/890046123_M7ZzT-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Sean-Tucker-52410/IMG9360/878135040_UwsZ4-L.jpg

It was a ride of a lifetime.... to get to see Sean in the air so close to the chase plane was amazing. He is an incredible
pilot that words can not properly explain. When you see him fly off the wing of your airplane and during 10 minutes you
do not see him get more than 3 feet closer or three feet further from his position, it is just amazing to see such skill.

To flip an aircraft inverted and not get 3 feet closer or 3 feet further from his original position off the chase plane...
Amazing is not close to the feeling. I had never seen anything like it. The closest I can come to explaining is to drive
a car at 100mph and keep the tire 2 inches from the curb and go around a corner.... To say he is the man is an
understatement. I was always a huge fan but had no idea how good his skill truly was up until that flight.

He does not do anything on a whim and his preflight for the 3 aircraft photo flight was professional, well choreographed
and did not leave much to "Winging it". The pilots knew what they were going to do in advance and were all on the same
page.

I had never felt more safe in ANY aircraft as when I was flying with Brian Norris with Sean just off my wing. It truly was
a flight of a lifetime and an experience that will keep me smiling for years to come. I am forever in debt to Team Oracle
for the experience that can not be put into words. It was for lack of a better word.....a Religious Experience... and that
too is an understatement!

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Sean-Tucker-52610/IMG0650/892383189_NvbHc-L-1.jpg

NLovis

2011-03-06, 03:18 PM

Dam it derf. Those shots are to die for. Id give up my location to be able to do what you do

Derf

2011-03-06, 04:31 PM

Dam it derf. Those shots are to die for. Id give up my location to be able to do what you do

Yes, I agree 100% it was the opportunity of a lifetime. I smile for hours every time I look at these photos.

Chris S

2011-03-11, 05:22 PM

NLovis

2011-03-16, 03:55 AM

Yes, I agree 100% it was the opportunity of a lifetime. I smile for hours every time I look at these photos.

Darn you lucky man.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-03-25, 09:38 PM

Our two first confirmed centennial aircraft are a T-34C and T-6 Texan II

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2011-03-25, 10:07 PM

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Billbo1970

2011-03-26, 01:28 PM

Hello everyone, late to the thread as per usual. Do we have any possibilities for the show that haven't been confirmed yet? The Military schedule looks a little thin.

Bill

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-03-26, 02:43 PM

Yes, the airshow is eligible for an F-18 TAC DEMO

Big Tim #70

2011-03-26, 08:15 PM

Oh well, the CF-18 and Heavy Metal Jet Team just released their 2011 schedules,
and unfortunately the Jones Beach Air show didn't get either demo this year.:frown:
We should still be getting one of the Hornet Demo teams from the Navy though
and hopefully some other aircraft for the Centennial of Naval Aviation celebration !! :wink:

I didn't expect to get the CF-18, if we did it would have been great, but I didn't have my hopes up. I am really bummed about not getting the Heavy Metal Jet Team though. This is the perfect show for them. Unfortunately, Snort & Jive are flying with MS760 in Florida that weekend...

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2011-04-03, 12:04 PM

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NLovis

2011-04-04, 03:26 AM

There we go. The knights are on. Now we need a demo team and i think were all set.

ch2tdriver

2011-04-04, 11:06 AM

To: Republic Airport Tenants & Users/Operators

From: John P. Arancio
Assistant Airport Manager

Date: April 4, 2011

RE: Runway 14/32 Closure-Thursday, April 7th

The purpose of this memorandum is to notify all tenants of the temporary closure of Runway 14/32 on Thursday, April 7, 2011 from 9:30 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. This closure is necessary in order to conduct a survey for the installation of temporary arresting gear on Runway 14/32. The installation of this equipment is required to accommodate military aircraft participating in the 2011 Memorial Day Air Show. Please note that Runway 1/19 will be open and fully available during this time.

Please review all NOTAMs for updates or changes to this notification. If you should have any questions or concerns regarding this notification, please contact John Arancio, Assistant Airport Manager at 631.386.6107.

We appreciate your cooperation and apologize for any inconvenience.

(Maybe they'll reconsider basing the F-22 at FRG?):cool:

moose135

2011-04-04, 11:12 AM

Maybe they'll reconsider basing the F-22 at FRG?
No they won't. From a trusted source (who I won't name publicly) the gear is required so FRG can act as an emergency divert field for the F-22. It will be raised when the F-22 is flying at the beach, but the aircraft is not planning to fly out of FRG. There may be other assets that will be able to use FRG because the gear is in place, but nothing definite (and no, nothing earth-shattering).

puckstopper55

2011-04-04, 02:15 PM

isnt this the same gear they use when the T-Birds are in town? I am surprised they would need a full day to conduct a survey for something they have done many times.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-04, 04:27 PM

I would also imagine that gear may be for some possible fast movers that may come ( like the F-18 Tacdemo).

Also while this is not guaranteed it would be nice to see the F-22 do some passes like it did back in 08'.

Derf

2011-04-04, 04:53 PM

Here are some pictures from 2006....ahhhhh good times on New Highway. The days
when all I had to worry about were getting 1 or 2 Hero's for the days events...but
I did have a lot less night shots tho

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2007-Jones-Beach-Airshow-1/IMG0940/155609979_7Y7zN-L-1.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2007-Jones-Beach-Airshow-1/IMG0952/155610098_dnkjF-L-1.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2007-Jones-Beach-Airshow-1/2893666_NLecG#155610886_Rggi6
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/2007-Jones-Beach-Airshow-1/IMG0989/155610612_jj2fj-L-1.jpg

puckstopper55

2011-04-05, 10:10 AM

Derf

2011-04-05, 10:21 AM

forgive my ignorance on this but here goes .. are those arresting cables, similar to those on an aircraft carrier? I only ask because I know the Navy does not use F-16's, or F-22's and didn't think they had the necessary tail hooks like a normal Navy Jet. The blue Angels made sense because, well NAVY = tail hook.

Also, what is anchoring these things down? I would imagine the force put on these (even know its letting out cable as the jet takes it) it tremendous. Thanks for the info guys.

All airforce jets fighters have the hook for arrestor sytems...they are not like Navy and are like Rubber and extend very far to slow the jet down gently. If you trap an F-16 on a carrier it will decelerate so fast that it will probably break the hook and splash or twist the aircraft where it could not be used again.
If you look at the picture above there are very long metal pins that stick into the ground and anchor it down deep into the ground. (looks like metal zigzags in the picture and the little black dots go underground very deep as they are very long strong rods.

gonzalu

2011-04-05, 10:24 AM

Something like this...

http://www.esco.zodiacaerospace.com/military-systems/images/mk6.jpg

http://www.esco.zodiacaerospace.com/military-systems/mag-and-m31.php

Derf

2011-04-05, 10:31 AM

Video of F-16 with the emergency arrestor system. Notice how it slows down slowly. (one of many videos)

http://www.fromtheflightdeck.com/videos/videos/f16arrested.WMV

Derf

2011-04-05, 11:28 AM

Something like this...

http://www.esco.zodiacaerospace.com/military-systems/images/mk6.jpg

http://www.esco.zodiacaerospace.com/military-systems/mag-and-m31.php

Not really, the arrestor system does not damage the aircraft, this system shown above has metal fiber straps that tears into the wings and everything it touches, it destroys the aircraft.

puckstopper55

2011-04-06, 08:53 AM

Got it. You learn something new everyday! Thanks Fred.

Billbo1970

2011-04-06, 11:26 AM

I'm so excited, I can't wait! Saw the F-22 for the first time when it was a Jones several years ago & have eagerly been awaiting it's return to Long Island. Now, if only we could get that F-18 demo team... oh my... :biggrin:

Is the Heavy Metal team a possibility at all, or is that definitely off?

Bill

Derf

2011-04-06, 01:17 PM

it sounds like the heavy metal team is a no go, but as with any airshow, everything is subject to change at the last minute. Not looking good :frown:

ANITIX87

2011-04-06, 03:38 PM

Hi, everybody.

Planning to attend, and I've read most of this thread. I presume (hope?) there will eventually be a specific breakdown of the show's schedule? I've checked out the various websites, but all I can find for the actual days of the show is "Airshow: 10AM - 3PM". Will something be posted that will indicate exactly when each event is scheduled?

Thanks!

TIS

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-06, 03:50 PM

ANITIX87

2011-04-06, 06:01 PM

I have the tentative schedule posted here: http://nyasinfo.com/guide/

I will post more information regarding the schedule if/when it comes out.
Thanks!

That was the one I had seen that just had the two days listed:
Saturday May 28th
Airshow 10AM-3PM
Sunday May 29th
Airshow 10AM-3PM

I was hoping for something along the lines of:
9AM - B-17
10:30AM - F-22 team
12:15PM - B-25...
...etc...

Assuming it's not there because it's not been announced just yet, I'll keep checking for updates! You always seem to post stuff immediately, so I'm guessing we simply don't know yet. Thanks again!

TIS

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-06, 06:26 PM

Thanks!

That was the one I had seen that just had the two days listed:
Saturday May 28th
Airshow 10AM-3PM
Sunday May 29th
Airshow 10AM-3PM

I was hoping for something along the lines of:
9AM - B-17
10:30AM - F-22 team
12:15PM - B-25...
...etc...

Assuming it's not there because it's not been announced just yet, I'll keep checking for updates! You always seem to post stuff immediately, so I'm guessing we simply don't know yet. Thanks again!

TIS

Yes that is correct. If they announce that information (which they usually do) I will be sure to post it as soon as I can.

moose135

2011-04-06, 07:39 PM

I don't remember seeing it posted here, but on the AAM's FB page, they are listing the CAF's B-24 as a participant as well. That means four WWII bombers on hand for the show!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-06, 08:04 PM

I don't remember seeing it posted here, but on the AAM's FB page, they are listing the CAF's B-24 as a participant as well. That means four WWII bombers on hand for the show!

Thanks for the info, moose!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-06, 08:48 PM

rev 4.6.2011-8:24PMEST (http://nyasinfo.com/2011/04/06/4611-caf-b-24-confirmed-for-airshow/)

---------

Added: Civilian: B-24 Ol '927^

Added: Static Display: B-29 Superfortress Fifi¦♦

Added: Static Display: B-17 Yankee Lady¦♦

Added: Static Display: B-25 Miss Hap¦♦

Added: Static Display: B-24 Ol '927¦♦

More Information (http://www.nyasinfo.com/guide)

Chris S

2011-04-06, 11:48 PM

BTW, speaking of those 4 Amazing WWII Bombers scheduled for the show, I'd sure love to see them followed up by a B-1B Bomber doing a HIGH SPEED PASS,because the Jones Beach show definitely needs MORE AFTERURNERS>>>>:cool:
Since the USAF couldn't give us the Thunderbirds this year, I'm still hoping they can make up for it by throwing us a BONE in addition to the F-22 and A-10! Ha! If you remember the 2007 show, you know how AWESOME the BONE was back then, and that year Jones Beach also had the Thunderbirds and A-10 too !!:wink:

fk6065

2011-04-07, 01:12 PM

Chris,

You are always the optomist! That would be great to get a B-1, but unfortunately I think this years show, despite being a "Tier I Naval Event" is going to be a bit disappointing. I really hope I am wrong but we are less than two months to go and ......................... Still keeping my hopes up.

What amazes me is with all the contributions that Long Island has made to Naval Aviation over the years that this isn't getting more "metal"

Greg_NY

2011-04-07, 10:11 PM

I don't remember seeing it posted here, but on the AAM's FB page, they are listing the CAF's B-24 as a participant as well. That means four WWII bombers on hand for the show!

That is awesome! I haven't seen a B-24 in a while...

PhantomII

2011-04-07, 10:47 PM

It was confirmed today that the terminal will be a lonely place on Memorial Day weekend. All three visiting bombers will be on the AAM ramp, along with all other FRG-based air show aircraft. They expect to fill the entire ramp, from the museum to SheltAir, with show aircraft.

Derf

2011-04-07, 11:37 PM

Night under the stars will benefit! Yahooo, I have the entire week off!

Gerard

2011-04-08, 07:14 AM

gonzalu

2011-04-08, 07:39 AM

ch2tdriver

2011-04-08, 06:28 PM

Is the Heavy Metal team a possibility at all, or is that definitely off?

Bill

You can enjoy them here: My video of when I caught them in Punta Gorda FL on the 27th.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ptbpilot?feature=mhum#p/a/u/0/K6Htc_OfLJQ

The act is impressive, just not very loud.:cool: They would have made a nice addition to the beach show if it could have been worked out. I hope to see them again, but this time I really want to see Snort solo the T-33! I'm not sure of the reason but he was in the all black L-39 as you'll see.

Pete

wunaladreamin

2011-04-08, 08:31 PM

Night under the stars will benefit! Yahooo, I have the entire week off!
Me too. I can't wait!

NLovis

2011-04-08, 08:35 PM

I have the B-1 as well from 07. Beauty. Lovis style of course :cool: Cant wait for this airshow. Were getting alot of warbirds this year. Cant wait. Though its still empty without some afterburners to blast our ears out :smile:
Yea I need to submit for under the stars. Would LOVE to participate this year. Manny, Derf think you could look over some of my night shots one of these days as possible entry photos? Ill talk to you guys later.

Derf

2011-04-08, 11:15 PM

.....Yea I need to submit for under the stars. Would LOVE to participate this year. Manny, Derf think you could look over some of my night shots one of these days as possible entry photos? Ill talk to you guys later.

I answered this question long ago, I can not start working on how to improve your night photos now as I am working on airshow projects. I did answer the question months ago when you last asked but it fell on deaf ears. This is from my earlier post to you in this same thread.
From 2/12/2011

............For your best chances I would start posts asking "how can I improve my night shots" and put examples.... Many examples. The resources on this forum are incredible and not to use it would be a crime. If your at JFK every night you stand an excellent shot of getting some outstanding captures. Enter your 3 best (if the event is allowed) and cross your fingers. This is how you stand the best chance of finding out if your that good, or improving so you are that good very quickly. I wish you luck but can not play favorites....

NLovis

2011-04-08, 11:59 PM

I answered this question long ago, I can not start working on how to improve your night photos now as I am working on airshow projects. I did answer the question months ago when you last asked but it fell on deaf ears. This is from my earlier post to you in this same thread.
From 2/12/2011
I was asking if you wouldnt mind glimpsing and saying yes this has a shot or no it doesnt. Wasnt looking for whats wrong and whats not. Back when you posted that I was still fiddling with my camera but now that im used to it and thinking, yea it would be a good time to ask on what needs improvement. Although I know 2 off the bat. leveling and movement. Movement still gets me at times and I have serious issues leveling my shots. I think its straight but when I view it its always curved in one direction. Ill need to go voer and put some up for an actual review in the comming days. When I get back from florida i should have some reviews from the pros on this site on what im messing up on.

lijk604

2011-04-09, 09:46 AM

I was asking if you wouldnt mind glimpsing and saying yes this has a shot or no it doesnt. .

I am working on airshow projects

Nick, submit what you think is best and pray. Pestering Fred will not help you.

fk6065

2011-04-09, 11:31 AM

Night under the stars will benefit! Yahooo, I have the entire week off!

It should be totally awesome! Can't wait!

Derf

2011-04-09, 02:55 PM

I was asking if you wouldnt mind glimpsing and saying yes this has a shot or no it doesnt. Wasnt looking for whats wrong and whats not. Back when you posted that I was still fiddling with my camera but now that im used to it and thinking, yea it would be a good time to ask on what needs improvement. Although I know 2 off the bat. leveling and movement. Movement still gets me at times and I have serious issues leveling my shots. I think its straight but when I view it its always curved in one direction. Ill need to go voer and put some up for an actual review in the comming days. When I get back from florida i should have some reviews from the pros on this site on what im messing up on.

soo your not looking for advice on whats wrong or are you?!?!

If you want advice, please read my suggestion above.

Gerard

2011-04-10, 09:33 AM

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-10, 08:07 PM

For those of you wondering about air show regulars Matt Chapman and Ed Hamill I have bad news.

Matt Chapman will be flying in Millville and Ed Hamill is going to be deployed in May.

Big Tim #70

2011-04-10, 08:32 PM

For those of you wondering about air show regulars Matt Chapman and Ed Hamill I have bad news.

Matt Chapman will be flying in Millville and Ed Hamill is going to be deployed in May.

Ed just got off of deployment! CRAP!

ch2tdriver

2011-04-11, 10:53 AM

Wonder what the attendance will be at this years airshow without a headlining big star attraction? Sure all of us here on this board are aviation aficianados but what about the casual observer? I think the lack of the T-Birds or Angels will definitely keep people away especially if the weather isnt that great. To be honest I'm not exactly thrilled there isnt a demo team performing and might just spend my time at FRG.

If the Raptor doesn't close the show, then yes I'd wager there will be no problem leaving the lots at JB at 3:00 pm. Ironically, I am sure FRG and New Highway (which most people tell me that's where they go to avoid the 'crowds') will be a mad house!

"Welcome everyone to the 2011 Jones Beach Airshow.....Celebrating the 64th Anniversary year of the USAF!!!!" :wink:

OK.....so where the heck is the NAVY???!!! Only 1.5 months to go!

Hornet? Super Bug? E2C demo??

hiss srq

2011-04-11, 11:17 AM

The only thing ive yet to see is the F22 out of the entire show... I won't be going to either FRG or Jones... I'll sit on my roof if I am home and watch it from Long Beach or just peg the binoculars on JB from work when the F22 goes up.

ch2tdriver

2011-04-11, 06:42 PM

I enjoy going to the show at the beach, and in the last 7 years I can't say that I've had a bad experience at all. This is the show to take the kids to, as if they get board they usually just play in the sand, or my wife takes them over to the Jumperoos at the west end. You can't beat the price, $8 bucks a car load, AND you can bring the cooler. Can't do that at other shows. I just make sure I'm on the Wantagh at 0900 at the toll booths. Once through the gate I bear right and go to field 3 to park. We enter at the West bath house and make are way to slightly right of show center. After the show, we kill some time and head to the car for 3:45 pm. With 3 parkways right there traffic dispenses relatively quickly.

That New Highway on Sat/Sun though scares me. It's wall to wall cars/people, the road is still open to thru traffic and it results in some flared tempers from non airplane interested drivers trying to get from one end to another who had no clue there was a show going on. Add people and kids crossing the road from behind parked cars trying to get up to the fence, and I worry that someone is going to get hit one day. IF that happens I can just see PD closing the road off from parking in the future.

This year I will want to capture the B-29 taking off and landing. I have ramp access as I fly out of the Echo Ramp. I imagine the 29 will use 14-32 so I'll have a front row seat on one of the days I don't head to the beach.

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-11, 07:24 PM

That New Highway on Sat/Sun though scares me. It's wall to wall cars/people, the road is still open to thru traffic and it results in some flared tempers from non airplane interested drivers trying to get from one end to another who had no clue there was a show going on. Add people and kids crossing the road from behind parked cars trying to get up to the fence, and I worry that someone is going to get hit one day. IF that happens I can just see PD closing the road off from parking in the future.

Unfortunately this has happened before.

Here is the cause
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/880303599_ofuPK-XL.jpg

and the EFFECT
http://derf.smugmug.com/photos/880303882_pGB3Q-L.jpg

It is rare that a NEW HWY Accident is not serious.

Last year they filled the potholes, and filled in the sides of the roads WITHOUT closing the road for a day!

The above accident was on May 26, 2010 right before Blue Angel #7 was coming in. The accident put two spectators in the hospital.

I'm not trying to scare or make anyone nervous but I do have some advice.

Drivers: Don't drive like a moron.

Spectators: Be careful. Have situational awareness and don't bring your kids there.

Honestly since most of the planes are going to be at the AAM this year a year membership at the AAM ($55) is worth it!

Derf

2011-04-11, 07:48 PM

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-11, 08:08 PM

Thanks Fred. Just as an FYI you can bring two guests but it's a one time offer.

Gerard

2011-04-11, 08:40 PM

That New Highway on Sat/Sun though scares me.

New Highway is a no go for me during the Air Show. Last year I did the Practice Show on Friday then hung out in the lots by the movie theater and Dave & Busters and caught plenty of action. Went to the Terminal to see the jets up close and even down by Atlantic in the back by Runway 1. All pretty much stress free,
BTW, without starting a new thread and going a little off-topic here, are the USMC planning their demos around the area again? Thanks.:cool:

Greg_NY

2011-04-11, 08:55 PM

How many of you guys are considering this awesome deal? Good thinking Ken

I am definitely going to do this - I regretted not doing it last year.

Isaac

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-12, 09:41 PM

4/12/11 (http://nyasinfo.com/?p=438)

Added: Photo contest (http://nyasinfo.com/2011/04/12/41211-bethpage-announces-search-for-biggest-air-show-fan-the-bethpage-air-show-rocks-facebook-contest/)

Added: Media Info (http://www.nyasinfo.com/mediainfo)

More Information (http://www.nyasinfo.com)

NLovis

2011-04-14, 04:39 AM

Great point Ken, UNLIMITED ACCESS TO THE AAM $55 per year

Yes, Get a year membership and you get unlimited access during airshow weekend, Labor day weekend and all other times they are open! If I did not have an airport badge I would
have it as I would spend more than that airshow week alone to be there. New highway is great for takoffs using one runway, and the AAM is the best spot for the other runway. How many of you guys are considering this awesome deal? Good thinking Ken

Def sounds interesting. Though I do believe the parking lot by the control tower would work well for me again this year. Though this year I have a new car that I dont want to dent by stepping on the roof.......

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-14, 04:40 PM

NLovis: That is another good place to get shots of take offs and arrivals.

wunaladreamin

2011-04-14, 04:51 PM

I'm already "enlisted" l. Not for nothing but $55 to me is a very small price to pay considering all they do for alot of us. Between opening their ramp to us all the time like memorial day weekend and labor day weekend and the History Under the Stars among others, it's the least we can do to support an organization that supports us so generously.

NLovis

2011-04-14, 10:48 PM

NLovis: That is another good place to get shots of take offs and arrivals.

While agreed I no longer have a sunroof where the roof right next to it can support me. Oh well will just need to figure something out. Or test my roof.

puckstopper55

2011-04-28, 01:25 PM

I guess with the show just about 1 month away, we wont be hearing any news about additional metal? Was really hoping for another jet or two, especially since this is supposed to be a tier 1 Navy event

Derf

2011-04-28, 01:34 PM

I have info that can not be released yet... HOLD YOUR BREATH! You should be hearing NEW NEWS SOON!!!!

Don't Ask

puckstopper55

2011-04-28, 02:39 PM

holding and not asking. Thanks Fred!!!

gonzalu

2011-04-28, 05:15 PM

I have info that can not be released yet... HOLD YOUR BREATH! You should be hearing NEW NEWS SOON!!!!

Don't Ask

Snow on Show day? That would be SWEEEEETTTT!!!!!!!!!

moose135

2011-04-28, 06:09 PM

Snow on Show day? That would be SWEEEEETTTT!!!!!!!!!
Only if you are attending an air show in Thule, Greenland...

NLovis

2011-04-28, 06:11 PM

Fred knows something? Must be big. Cant wait.

Gerard

2011-04-28, 07:13 PM

Fred knows something? Must be big. Cant wait.

Hope he lets us know at laest two weeks before so I can put in for a Vacay day that Friday. :eek:

fk6065

2011-04-28, 07:59 PM

I think we should start a pool, $5 a guess on how many "PM's" Fred will receive that say, "You can tell me, you can trust me, I won't tell.... I promise"

ch2tdriver

2011-04-29, 10:35 AM

F-18 Demo. Buster from AAM Ops has already mentioned that on ASB. Funding for the demo teams was approved when Congress signed the CR the night of the pending shutdown. NAVAIR is still holding off on releasing the sched to month by month.

(Unless of course Derf has some knowledge of a Retro painted Prowler that may make an appearence?. Heck I'll even settle for the retro Growler!)

Derf

2011-04-29, 03:09 PM

:cool: With the info that I have, can not release...sorry

I can not confirm nor deny any info - Fred

Derf

2011-04-29, 06:01 PM

Confirmed
Chris B will have his P-51 at the AAM and he is bringing along the rest of the Warrior Demo Team (a gloss black L-39 with the Wounded Warrior logo on the tail).

That was not what I was hush hush about tho....stay tuned folks!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-29, 06:38 PM

rev 4.29.2011-6:24PMEST (http://nyasinfo.com/?p=460)

Added: Civilian: Wounded Warrior Flight Team (http://www.facebook.com/WoundedWarriorFlightTeam?sk=wall)

Removed: USAF Heritage Flight

More Information (http://www.nyasinfo.com/guide)

fk6065

2011-04-29, 08:01 PM

Confirmed
Chris B will have his P-51 at the AAM and he is bringing along the rest of the Warrior Demo Team (a gloss black L-39 with the Wounded Warrior logo on the tail).

Here is the Warrior Demo Team's L=39 from Rhode Island last year.

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-GJMvxc6/0/L/i-GJMvxc6-L.jpg

http://fredkopf.smugmug.com/photos/i-F4PJRNz/0/L/i-F4PJRNz-L.jpg

Chris S

2011-04-30, 08:54 AM

FYI- NAVCO has suspended the F-18 Demo schedule until further notice:
http://www.navy.mil/navco/airshows/TACDEMO_APR29.pdf

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-04-30, 05:46 PM

Well if we do get the F-18 demo it will be a Legacy Demo with the museums Corsair. Hopefully they can get everything sorted out before airshow.

NLovis

2011-04-30, 10:13 PM

Hopefully indeed. Cant wait to head out to the annual beach show. And by that I mean family related. We try to go every year.

wunaladreamin

2011-05-01, 09:38 AM

I know what the big secret is and I ain't talking!!! Trust me, you all are going to really dig it!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-05-04, 09:39 PM

Well it looks like if the Navy doesn't clear up the problem with the demo team we wont have an F-18 Demo this year.

gonzalu

2011-05-04, 11:49 PM

I know what the big secret is and I ain't talking!!! Trust me, you all are going to really dig it!

http://www.avscholars.com/images/c150.jpg

Derf

2011-05-05, 12:01 AM

After the last info on the F-18 demo, that may be about it.... There is also going to be a pair of static aircraft (not saying) and possible one other thing(s) but it that looks iffy at best. The F-18 demo is what had me drooling but I will not go into any further info on that :wink:

Chris S

2011-05-05, 12:04 AM

Well, even if the Navy doesn't clear the F-18 Demo team to do their regular demo,
there's good chance they'll still come up to do a Legacy flight with the Corsair at least,
because that's exactly what VFA-106 did last week at the Beaufort show with their
special BLUE Centennial F-18 and a Corsair :cool:

Oh and BTW, The Beale show had a surprise appearance by the B1-B last week also:biggrin:
Here's a video of it and it's last high speed with the roll at the end is just AWESOME !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK1F6zFcnfw

So keep your fingers crossed everyone !!! :wink:

Gerard

2011-05-05, 06:58 PM

Oh and BTW, The Beale show had a surprise appearance by the B1-B last week also:biggrin:
Here's a video of it and it's last high speed with the roll at the end is just AWESOME !!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK1F6zFcnfw
So keep your fingers crossed everyone !!! :wink:

Wow that was very cool!! We can only hope....:tongue:

Chris S

2011-05-05, 07:40 PM

Well, we better hope they send us the B1-B especially if the F-22 is still grounded for the JB air show :confused:
Unfortunately, there's bad news about the F-22 today :frown:.....
The U.S. Air Force has temporarily halted flights of the Lockheed Martin Corp. (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=LMT:US) F-22 jet because of “recent reports of potential oxygen system malfunctions,” according to Air Combat Command (http://www.acc.af.mil/).

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=conewsstory&refer=conews&tkr=LMT:US&sid=aO96CZ4zS6k8

Derf

2011-05-05, 07:47 PM

The pilot “scraped the underside of the aircraft on trees during a landing approach,” said the e-mail. “The pilot does not recall the incident and is being treated for physiological symptoms,”

What kind of trees are at 14,500 feet?

I know, I was just venting...... Please do not reply to it!

Gerard

2011-05-05, 08:16 PM

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-05-05, 08:17 PM

rev 5.5.2011-8:08PMEST (http://nyasinfo.com/?p=472)

Revised: F-22 Demo

Due to the ACC issued stand down the F-22 Raptor demonstration is now listed as tentative.

More Information (http://www.nyasinfo.com)

Chris S

2011-05-05, 08:21 PM

FYI- The potential malfunctions with the Onboard Oxygen Generating System (OBOGS) may have caused the F-22 crash in the Fall of 2010 up in Alaska, that was responsible for the loss of Capt. Jeffery Haney of the 525th Fighter Squadron, and may involve more aircraft than the Raptors.
More info can be found on the defensenews.com website:

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6041977&c=AIR&s=TOP

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-05-05, 09:55 PM

The stand-down already affected one airshow. It looks like ACC is being nice and giving out replacements.

http://www.shreveporttimes.com/article/20110505/NEWS10/110505013/Air-Force-F-22-Raptor-pulls-out-air-show

steve1840

2011-05-06, 07:23 AM

FYI- NAVCO has suspended the F-18 Demo schedule until further notice:
http://www.navy.mil/navco/airshows/TACDEMO_APR29.pdf

Is there any more news on this? Just wondering since the F-18 TACDEMO was susposed to be at the airshow in Smyrna, TN this weekend that I will be attending.

puckstopper55

2011-05-06, 09:25 AM

This air show went from "having the potential to be great" to "ugh". With the F-18 not being confirmed, and now the F-22 being down, it looks like the A-10 will be the headliners. :eek:

Chris S

2011-05-06, 10:25 AM

Is there any more news on this? Just wondering since the F-18 TACDEMO was susposed to be at the airshow in Smyrna, TN this weekend that I will be attending.
Steve,
No new updates unfortunately. If the F-18 Demo was supposed to be at Smyrna show,
hopefully they'll still show up and do the Legacy flight at least if one was scheduled.
Let us know what happens this weekend down in Smyrna when you get back, OK !!
Safe travels !!

ch2tdriver

2011-05-06, 10:47 AM

steve1840

2011-05-06, 11:20 AM

Steve,
No new updates unfortunately. If the F-18 Demo was supposed to be at Smyrna show,
hopefully they'll still show up and do the Legacy flight at least if one was scheduled.
Let us know what happens this weekend down in Smyrna when you get back, OK !!
Safe travels !!

That would be nice. At least they are still having the F-15 demo (so their site says). I will be at Smyrna Sat (with my kids) and Sunday (by myself) so I will have plenty of coverage of it. I'll be sure to let you guys now how it goes!

Derf

2011-05-06, 12:41 PM

OK, there is lots of speculation here... I really do not care about what else when I was given the info that 2 static growlers are coming and 4 F-18 demo aircraft (2 in Centennial colors). I am waiting to hear about other fast movers but noting else solid yet. :cool: :tongue:

I also have some arrival info but can not post it yet as it is not for public release....

HISTORY UNDER THE STARS IS GOING TO BE...... (for you Nick) EPIC

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-05-08, 07:59 PM

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steve1840

2011-05-08, 08:52 PM

FYI- The Smyrna airshow DID have the F-18 Tacdemo and the Legacy Flight with the Corsair. Hope you guys get the F-18 Tacdemo too!

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-05-08, 08:53 PM

Thanks Steve for letting us know!

Here is a statement I received regarding the F-22

As far as I know all F-22's in our fleet are grounded, this includes the one's performing at the air show this year. There is no ETA as to when they will be cleared for flight readiness.

steve1840

2011-05-09, 12:57 AM

Thanks Steve for letting us know!

Here is a statement I received regarding the F-22

No problem! Anytime!

flysail

2011-05-09, 09:08 PM

I heard that The redbird FMX Sim at Nassau flyers is going to be running for folks who want to fly a full motion general aviation sim. sounds cool

Fighting_falcon_51

2011-05-12, 10:04 PM

Gerard

2011-05-12, 11:11 PM

Well in the recent press release by the BFCU they still listed the F-22 so I guess its safe to assume it hasn't been officially cancelled by ACC yet which hopefully means there is still hope for it . Then again, who knows.
Even Newsday put in their 2 cents:
http://www.newsday.com/long-island/suffolk/f-22-fighter-to-be-in-jones-beach-air-show-1.2874064

I was at a party the other night and two friends of mine thought there was no Airshow this year and still werent totaly enthusiastic when I explained what was going to be there.
Oh well their loss. :cool:

Liquid_Squelch

2011-05-13, 08:26 AM

I will be posting my annual Air Show Frequency guide for all of you that like to listen to your scanners while at the show or airport. Like last year, the URL is : http://www.w2lie.net/airshow This page will refresh to the 2011 guide once it is completed.

And as is tradition, I will have a Live Feed running for the Air Show on my website.

I will reply to this thread with any updates on the live feed and frequency list.

Enjoy the show!

moose135

2011-05-13, 08:32 AM

Thanks Phil! It's always a big help to have the correct frequencies!

Big Tim #70

2011-05-13, 09:04 AM

I don't want to be a negative nancy but...

http://www.newsherald.com/news/months-93557-base-stand.html

Sounds like the F-22 won't be flying again anytime soon...

Chris S

2011-05-13, 11:14 AM

I don't want to be a negative nancy but...

http://www.newsherald.com/news/months-93557-base-stand.html

Sounds like the F-22 won't be flying again anytime soon...

Yeah, I saw that F-22 news link on ASB last night also :frown:
Let's hope the ACC can make an exception and schedule the Strike Eagle Demo team
to fill in for the Raptor at Jones Beach, especially since the F-22 was headlining the show.
If not, maybe they can still send us the F-4 or B-1B for some high speed flybys at least ???
Either way, it looks like I'll definitely be going down to the Millville show now for at least one
day that weekend to see the Blue Angels and Viper West to get my AFTERBURNER>>> fix !! :cool: