707 at isp??

[h2opunk1822]

so i just got a call from someone saying they saw john travolta's quantas 707 at ISP.. im heading over there now to see if i can see anything!

its on excelairs ramp!!

[SengaB]

It arrived last night around 10:17pm last night

17FL-KISP
N707JT
Owner: JETT CLIPPER JOHNNY LLC
Current Route:
17FL./.SARDI..CCC..KISP
17FL
GREYSTONE
OCALA, FL
ISP
LONG ISLAND MAC ARTHUR
ISLIP, NY
KZNY 410 146 ARRIVED 0317Z

[wunaladreamin]

In a completely unshootable position. This sucks. Senga, do you know when the bird is leaving?

[hiss srq]

****, I am leaving my house now. A 707 at ISP is defineately worth leaving the house sick for.

[SengaB]

Kenny,
No there isn't anything on it yet. It should be there at least for today
Senga

[wunaladreamin]

Thanks!

[SengaB]

It is not a problem.
Senga

[moose135]

In a completely unshootable position. This sucks.
You just have to want it enough. Of course, I should have listened to myself and gone out earlier in the afternoon when there would have been light on it...

http://www.moose135photography.com/photos/777904814_CMPMe-L.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/photos/777905122_GHTMB-L.jpg

[MarkLawrence]

NICE John!!! Very nice!!!

[Derf]

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/photos/777979608_3jMNf-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/photos/777979883_y4Za7-L.jpg

[moose135]

Very nice, Fred, very nice!

[Gerard]

NIce shots. Any reason why it was there? Johnny T. in town?

[Zee71]

Probably out in the Hamptons, but I heard that he'll be on Letterman early this week.

Excellent captures of the JT's 707

[Derf]

Thanks guys!


Very nice, Fred, very nice!

I could not get the angle I wanted as there was a jet parked by her nose messing up the shot I wanted....YOUR SHOT! DOH!

[h2opunk1822]

better shots then i was able to get, i tried with my phone and realized it was a lost cause.. im thinking i should eventually invest in a camera.. but just knowing i saw it is just as good!!..

[Derf]

better shots then i was able to get, i tried with my phone and realized it was a lost cause.. im thinking i should eventually invest in a camera.. but just knowing i saw it is just as good!!..

I think you should save for some new tires instead of a camera!!! :lol:
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/PRIVATE/Friends/Chris/IMG3631/414931556_8DuYR-M.jpg

[PhilDernerJr]

Great shots, guys! When was the last time ISP got a 707?

[mirrodie]

That is great!

Perhaps its on its way down to Haiti? There is a thread on Anet suggesting he is/was going to PAP

[mirrodie]

OK, is it still there? i didnt think I'd have a chance in hell of shooting it but I may be able to right before sundown, with a point and shoot.

Worth a trip down there around 4 PM?

[eric8669]

anyone know when its departing?

[mirrodie]

Im off to the gym now, but if you hear anyhting Eric, please send me a text? Ill be working out probably 60 to 90 mins then will take the ride out.

[Matt Molnar]

There is a thread on Anet suggesting he is/was going to PAP
Possibly, he's already been there but I know there were some Scientology-organized flights out of NY that had some issues...maybe he came up to pick up the extra folks.

[h2opunk1822]

hahaha, it would be a wise investment!!, there still good.. not legal but good!... awesome shots everyone!!

[NLovis]

ARGH! I need to get down there if its still there in the morning. This is a must get. Now all I need to do is find a way close to it aside from going through the shopping center.

[Big Tim #70]

I was down there today and it's still there. I was speaking with a couple of guys I know who work there and they said they heard he's going out tomorrow (Tues). Keep in mind, it's he said/she said info so I don't know how reliable it is.

I was also in my usual paperwork spot today catching up on my phone calls and a suffolk cop tossed me for the first time ever! I knew the rep of the PD's that work the airport but I had a good spot where my truck blended in and I got a great view of the runway. The cop was pretty cool about it but I didn't give him any crap, I started packing my stuff up as soon as I saw him turn around and start driving back. Lots of security floating around there this week so if you go to snap shots, make sure you have your ID readily available and be nice! :D

[Derf]

Some more from this morning

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG0823/779306522_LfNoj-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG0859/779306814_ps3ye-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG0877/779307034_wKRCv-L.jpg

8)

[NLovis]

DYUWEFGWSJKH. I FORGOT TO HEAD OUT. NOW I GOT WORK DAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. I'll try for tomorrow if tis still there.

[Derf]

Here is another shot with some towers in the backround!
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG0914/779372968_Q8UmB-L.jpg

[NIKV69]

he's going out tomorrow (Tues). Keep in mind, it's he said/she said info so I don't know how reliable it is.



Tenative plans were for tonight but staying another day

[Derf]

Plane open, wingtip lights on, all fueled up main door open, gpu running, engine covers still on

[NIKV69]

It's just travolta's engineer. Still planning on leaving tomorrow tho the wx is looking bad, but hey he can afford a 15k de ice bill

[mirrodie]

If someone can do it, take video. That would be sweet to see!

[hiss srq]

I might have to blow off the office for a while tomorrow and head out to ISP to watch this magnificent bird depart. It is probably the only time somthhing has ever worn an Australian air carriers colors into ISP. Maybe the last too! :borat:

[eric8669]

here's my contribution

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/20100202-IMG_2237_8_9.jpg

I saw them fuel up, but I left shortly after 3PM.

[hiss srq]

Fred, the sideon shot totally knocks my socks off. The best photograph of a 707 I have ever seen not in PanAm colors. Eric, if you photoshopped out the Hawkker and the new tower it would look like a color photo from the era.

[Big Tim #70]

She's still there as of 4:30.

Hooked to a powercart though and there is some activity in and out of her.

[moose135]

Super shots, guys! Fred, that head-on is killer! JT is on Letterman tonight, so I expect the jet will be here for a little while longer.

[NIKV69]

Leaving tomorrow afternoon

[Gerard]

So why does JT keep his aircraft in the Quantas livery? Dont get me wrong it looks very cool but I'm curious. Is it
some type of promotional thing? I had read something about it in the past but cant recall.

[NIKV69]

He is basically just representing Qantas whereever he goes.

[Gerard]

He is basically just representing Qantas whereever he goes.

Getting $$$$$$?? :)

[NLovis]

Ok if anybody wants to meet me i'm heading to ISP tomorrow morning. If anybody can pinpoint a time of departure it will be sweet to catch that taking off. Figuring to leave around 7AM and i'll be there by 8. Hopefully its still there.

[eric8669]

Any news?

Did he leave yet? if not anybody know ETD?

[NIKV69]

Can't share this info in the forum PM me for details.

[mirrodie]

request again. someone, if you can, please take vid!

[Matt Molnar]

He is basically just representing Qantas whereever he goes.

Getting $$$$$$?? :)
John Travolta is a rich man but not Donald Trump-rich, or even Tom Hanks-rich. I don't think he could afford to fly and maintain a 707 without some help.

[SengaB]

N707JT Departing ISP at 3:10pm Local for 17FL.
ISP
LONG ISLAND MAC ARTHUR
ISLIP, NY
17FL
ETMS 400 450 FILED ETD 2010Z


NO excuses for bad or cloudy weather. Get you backsides out there and get the plane.

[Tom_Turner]

He is basically just representing Qantas whereever he goes.

Getting $$$$$$?? :)
John Travolta is a rich man but not Donald Trump-rich, or even Tom Hanks-rich. I don't think he could afford to fly and maintain a 707 without some help.

He might be able to afford to fly and maintain a 707 but I imagine even for him it might qualify as an indulgent luxury. He purchased it some time ago and maintained it in a TWA double globes cheat line (cheat line only and in blue actually) before that he bought a "connie" which he later passed on to another owner (if there was ever any question JT was not an aviation geek). I had read JT was fetching 20 million a picture at one point, but of course not nearly all of that would go into his pocket. I agree, the Qantas deal is probably saving some relevant $$$$.

Tom

[hiss srq]

The Lockheed in question is now located in Lakeland Florida. It is owned by someone I have had the pleasure to get to know quite well as a Florida resident and member of the aviation business. Mr. Kermit Weeks. The airplane is painted in Lufthansa colors. Or at least it was. I have not been to the area in recent times. Mr. Travolta also has a Jetcommander or one that at least once was his located at Vaughn in that lot next to Marriot across from LGA. It is clearly visible from the street. At one point he also owned a lear23 which was untill recently in posession (mostly parted out) of one of my former employers in Florida.
Intresting note about his Gulfstream. He visited SRQ once with it and the ramper who was towing it to parking (previously fired from ASA for leaving an engine cowling unhinged causing it to seperate in flight) pushed the Gulfstream so far up the lip of the ramp it rolled over into the mud and it took two Peterbuilt wreckers to unstick it from there. Mr. Travolta was not physically present when it occured (thankfully) but his other pilot was. Lucky for us, no damage past a few chinks and scuff marks in the main landing gears clear coat protection that is painted over it for corrosion protection from the straps tied around them to get her out.

[SengaB]

Tom since you brought it up.
I guess I should post a shot of the older colors of N707JT. There are not many shots of the plan when it was painted like this so my shot is very special to me. I love the TWA-ish look a few classic livery. Too bad he paints the plane gray instead of leaving it with bare metal.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2706/4328619254_aeb1173b38_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2557/3679808146_9a7d49952c_o.jpg
Senga

[hiss srq]

Great shot Senga. Is that at LAX? Obviously it was a hot summer day when you snapped that one. :borat:

[T-Bird76]

He is basically just representing Qantas whereever he goes.

Getting $$$$$$?? :)
John Travolta is a rich man but not Donald Trump-rich, or even Tom Hanks-rich. I don't think he could afford to fly and maintain a 707 without some help.

Travolta is worth about 1.4 bil, Hanks is worth 1.9. Either way more then enough to support his flying hobby. Who know's what Trump is worth since it's been disputed a number of times.

[Derf]

Here is a quick post of his departure
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG1006/780280798_qbEBL-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG1010/780281017_Xjb5j-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG1019/780282096_3Uxhf-L.jpg

Have more but got to go right now, sorry

[SengaB]

hiss srq,
The shot was taken at KORD in 2001- And yes it was VERY Hot that day. I remember it well. I was shooting trains next to the airport and it flew right past me and I wen crazy after I saw it.

Senga

[Matt Molnar]

Travolta is worth about 1.4 bil, Hanks is worth 1.9.
Where'd you get those #'s? Hanks is possibly accurate because he has produced a lot of stuff, but Travolta is just an actor...seems unlikely he'd be worth that much.

[NLovis]

Woo thatw as amazing. I'll have my pics up shortly. used 22/24 shots on my film roll. Nice meeting you all.

[eric8669]

Here are mine

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/20100203-IMG_2248.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/20100203-IMG_2256.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/20100203-IMG_2266.jpg

[NLovis]

Nice shots. I'll have mine up in an hour 1/2 give or take a few min.

[hiss srq]

Nice shots. I'll have mine up in an hour 1/2 give or take a few min.
I'm starting my stop watch. :lol:


Guys, thank you soo much for documenting this visit to ISP. This might be the visitor of the last few decades I would venture to guess. Awesome shots!!!!!!!!

[Gerard]

What is their call sign?

[NIKV69]

What is their call sign?

The manufacter followed by the regi. Pretty standard for private stuff when the Sands SP came into IFP they did the same just added the "heavy" of course

[Gerard]

What is their call sign?

The manufacter followed by the regi. Pretty standard for private stuff when the Sands SP came into IFP they did the same just added the "heavy" of course

Thanks. LOL thought maybe "Barbarino 1" :lol:

[Tom_Turner]

[quote="hiss srq"]The Lockheed in question is now located in Lakeland Florida. It is owned by someone I have had the pleasure to get to know quite well as a Florida resident and member of the aviation business. Mr. Kermit Weeks. The airplane is painted in Lufthansa colors. Or at least it was. I have not been to the area in recent times.>>

Thanks Ryan, yes that's right. "Planes of Fame" right? A bit pricey, but arguably the best aviation museum I have been to. Kermit Week's aircraft are in pristine condition, some or many of them airworthy (last i knew) or theoretically so at least. A examples are nothing short of excellent, and with the addition of the Connie, only more so. I was driving past one night going to Fort Myers, and you can't help but see that DC-3, all lit up diving into the ground. :D

I believe it was probably Mr. Weeks who attempted to get Comet Canopus over to Florida back around 1999, but sadly, if understandably, the powers that be in that instance in the UK would not give her up to leave the country.

<< Mr. Travolta also has a Jetcommander or one that at least once was his located at Vaughn in that lot next to Marriot across from LGA.>> Haven't noticed it lately Ryan, but I suppose its still there. The aircraft seem to have been moved around from time to time.

<< Intresting note about his Gulfstream. He visited SRQ once with it and the ramper who was towing it to parking (previously fired from ASA for leaving an engine cowling unhinged causing it to seperate in flight) pushed the Gulfstream so far up the lip of the ramp it rolled over into the mud and it took two Peterbuilt wreckers to unstick it from there. Mr. Travolta was not physically present when it occured (thankfully) but his other pilot was. Lucky for us, no damage past a few chinks and scuff marks in the main landing gears clear coat protection that is painted over it for corrosion protection from the straps tied around them to get her out. >>

... is that guy still working in aviation someplace you think? Maybe 2 strike is enough in his case..??

Regards,
Tom

[hiss srq]

Fantasy of Flight is the name. Planes Of Fame if I am not mistaken is the name of his collection he has on the east coast of Florida someplace. The first time I saw that DC3 I was like 13 or so and I freaked so bad my mother slammed on the brakes in the middle land of I4. LOL :lol:


And no, thankfully that particular person now works on elevators in Tampa. :shock:

[Tom_Turner]

<<Fantasy of Flight is the name. Planes Of Fame if I am not mistaken is the name of his collection he has on the east coast of Florida someplace. The first time I saw that DC3 I was like 13 or so and I freaked so bad my mother slammed on the brakes in the middle land of I4. LOL :lol: >>

Fantasy of flight thats right. Thanks. Haven't been to Planes of fame I don't think.
There is a large Shorts Seaplane at Fantasy which really amazed me..... as I was leaving a prison gang was working on the surrounding landscaping...just off the property. :borat:

<<And no, thankfully that particular person now works on elevators in Tampa. :shock:[/quote]>>

hhmmmmm on 2nd thought, maybe he should go back to the airport.. :lol:

[SengaB]

Nice departure shots there Eric, Fred. Lots of smoke too :)
How many people were out there for the departure?
Senga

[MarkLawrence]

Nice departure shots guys!!!

[lijk604]

Heard around the corporate community today that JT was so impressed with Excelaire's service, he may stop in again during the summer. Something to watch for???

[Derf]

Thanks guys.... here are a few more

Nick, Here you can clearly see those blow in doors in the engine inlets. Now too bad he did not have water injection
in those engines....can you imagine the big black smoke billowing on takeoff!!! Or hell, can imagine if the FAA let him
put some JATO (or really RATO..but that is a different discussion).
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG1034/780490990_brFDZ-L.jpg


Here are some more
http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG1060/780491337_LwEwj-L.jpg

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG1092/780491700_WG5nA-L.jpg

[hiss srq]

EGADZ!!!!!!!! (Sorry Kenny, it was appropriate)

[cancidas]

http://www.longislandwallpapers.com/Aviation/Macarthur-Airport/IMG1092/780491700_WG5nA-L.jpg
beautiful!!

[Gerard]

Found these articles....
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/ ... m=storyrhs (http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/04/16/1082055628618.html?from=storyrhs)

http://www.707sim.com/jt2.html

[moose135]

Good seeing everyone out today! Here are a few of my shots.

http://www.moose135photography.com/photos/780568413_4cpXm-L.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/photos/780568803_CXbi8-L.jpg

http://www.moose135photography.com/photos/780569004_uCWmU-L.jpg

[Matt Molnar]

Awesome job, everyone.

[NIKV69]

In a cruel coincidence one of anet top 5 today. This is just insult to injury.

1647339

[eric8669]

One more from me.

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/southpaw8669/IMG_2255-1-2.jpg

[NLovis]

Sigh. What are the odds my shots come out messed up? Any guesses?
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/14_1610.jpg
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/15_1710.jpg
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/16_1810.jpg

[hiss srq]

My guess are the odds would be relatively high considering that you are shooting with a fairly basic point and shoot and likely have limited editing ability. So do not beat yourself up. I actually much enjoy your photographic perspective on the departure. The appearnce of your photos lend to the appearnce of having been captured "in era" with early color film camera. And it also has the effect of accentuating the smoke contrails being emitted from the engines.

[Matt Molnar]

Sigh. What are the odds my shots come out messed up? Any guesses?
The second one isn't bad.

[727C47]

love those smoke trails reminds of being a kid and watching all those 31 departures a steady stream of twa,paa,and aa 707s,even better black smoke was generated by the cv880s !

[mirrodie]

NLovis, I like hte look of those pics.


our 5 year old canon elph is dying and the pics taken from it are looking a lot like yours. i like it b/c it gives a nostalgic look to it.

[SengaB]

NLovis,
Don't feel too bad. N707JT hits the NY, NJ area countless times throughout the year. I can almost garantee you will see it within a year just work on getting a better set up before the next arrival. You might have to hit EWR or SWF maybe even JFK.

Senga

[Mayi757]

I just peeked into this thread now but WOW that thing smokes BEAUTIFULLY! I assume she's hushkitted but the smoke trail is still there!

NLovis, those are cool shots and yes they do look old school nostalgic and to be honest I'm personally not a fan of 100% grain free images myself, they're boring to me. Anyone would be extremely lucky to see a 707 in action and even more with the smoky old engines!

Be happy you're able to catch a 707 in 2010. So, give yourself an applause, Congratulations! :D

[NLovis]

Yea i'm happy about catching it but I also wanted some good shots. Yea I was using an ancient film camera and those shots arent edited. Thats how they came out. Camera is from the 80's and the film was fujifilm. I think it was the crappy film that got me. Here are 2 more.
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/04_610.jpg
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/05_710.jpg

[hiss srq]

Honestly, I like the way your photos came out. I wish that new tower was not in the picture and I said several times before it would be perfectly beleiveable if this was shot in proper era. :borat:

[wunaladreamin]

Nothing different from any of the other folkses shots, but here she is...

http://www.tinfoilhelmetphotography.com/Airplanes/JFK-January-10/resized01n707jt/779412180_UqRTu-L.jpg

Don't tell my bossy, I was sick that day lol. And, many thanks to Senga for talking me into running across a 4 lane road for this, and also to Fred for the parking info! Luv you guys!!!

[Gerard]

[quote="NLovis"]Yea i'm happy about catching it but I also wanted some good shots. Yea I was using an ancient film camera and those shots arent edited. Thats how they came out. Camera is from the 80's and the film was fujifilm. I think it was the crappy film that got me.

Stop beating yourself up over the pictures. They are fine. Unlike some aviation photo sites the guys and girls on here
are not judgemental and if they do give any criticism its only in the helpful sense. That is why this is the BEST aviation
website on the Net. :D :D

[NLovis]

Yea i'm happy about catching it but I also wanted some good shots. Yea I was using an ancient film camera and those shots arent edited. Thats how they came out. Camera is from the 80's and the film was fujifilm. I think it was the crappy film that got me.

Stop beating yourself up over the pictures. They are fine. Unlike some aviation photo sites the guys and girls on here
are not judgemental and if they do give any criticism its only in the helpful sense. That is why this is the BEST aviation
website on the Net. :D :D
wanted a clear shot like wunala's. Thats a nice shot.

[wunaladreamin]

Thanks kid. Just keep practicing the shooting, and really learn how to edit and you'll get there. Don't be afraid to ask questions about shooting or editing. I'm sure you'll get some real helpful answers from quite a few people here.We were all beginners once and, at least for me, without the help of some of the great folks here and on some other sites, I wouldn't be half the photographer I am today. Never stop learning. If you need anything, shoot me a pm bro.

[MarkLawrence]

Nice Kenny!! Everyones shots are great! I'm jealous - hoping to get a 707 tomorrow - N88ZL is still at OPF I hear!!

[Mayi757]

Yea i'm happy about catching it but I also wanted some good shots. Yea I was using an ancient film camera and those shots arent edited. Thats how they came out. Camera is from the 80's and the film was fujifilm. I think it was the crappy film that got me. Here are 2 more.

The shot without the fence in the way I like it a lot, find it nostalgic and interesting, so what if the plane isn't perfectly sideways? you got a very interesting background. That looks like it was taken in the 1970s! Don't let it go to your head but that's my favorite out of all the Travolta 707 shots on the thread, I'm not joking.

I'd like to know what film that is exactly?? Seems to be very good actually.

Really dig the result on a cloudy-bright day. If I get me another film camera body I'll like to try that film when the weather isn't so good and my digital will be collecting dust!

That film seems to have excellent color contrast and saturation in difficult light (visibly superior to digital) and could not have come out better given the conditions. The plane just pops out of the image. Same shot on digital would've come out ugly and needed heavy editing to look half as good. Just beware that camera has a light leak. Some pictures might not come out at all.

With a SLR film camera and zoom lens you will be able to zoom in and get good action shots.

[NLovis]

I was zoomed in for those shots. If I use another camera I lose 140mm on my range and my range only goes up to 200mm max. The film wasnt all that great. Next time I buy i'm buying Kodak film.

[Mayi757]

ok the film sucks, the camera is great. I'm still curious so is it ok to say which type it was? (there are many kinds of fuji films)

example: Fuji Reala 100, Fuji blah blah 200, etc

[Tom_Turner]

Mario - you actually make me want to go out and shoot some prints - were it not for the time and cost involved (and then scanning). I do miss the Kodak Gold 100 and the Fuji 100/ Fuji Reala 100. They've got to be much harder to find now I suppose.

Tom

[NLovis]

If I remember correctly it was Fuji 500

[SengaB]

I have to agree with both of you. I thought I was alone in feeling that way too. Nlovis images had that nostalgic feel to them and give you a "authentic" feeling. They remind some of us of a time before everyone had to have big lenses and fancy cameras and just getting thew plane was ENOUGH. I guess in the age of cookie cutter pictures in aviation photography its sometimes nice to see something that doesn't like its just another shot.

Senga

[hiss srq]

I agree Senga. Not to take away from anyone elses shots because they are all pretty killer and if you can nail a 707 these days you do it. But........ You are spot on. I feel like I whipped out a picture album in my grandfathers old photo collections or somthing.

[Mayi757]

Yea man, a 707 docked at the terminal in 1974 or something like that. That shot could fool anybody.

This might seem like an exaggeration but I personally enjoyed the photos at airliners.net more in the early days when everything was taken on film and all 15 shots per page weren't all side-ons in perfect sun, cloud-less skies or with the same contrast/saturation. Each photo had a different look of its own.


ps: Tom I think Kodak doesn't even make Gold 100 anymore. Kodachrome is gone but there are some good newer 100 speed slide films that still exude classic photographic joy. For some FUN in cloudy and difficult light I'd like to try possibly Fuji NPS 160 or a faster film like the one NLovis is using, which sounds to me like some kind of Fuji 400 film (since there's no 500).

[Mayi757]

...btw, for anyone who might try shooting print film, beware that pictures taken with SLR cameras developed at drugstore-type photo labs almost always come out with awful colors, I guess they calibrate their printers for $10 point-and-shoot cameras (what most people shoot with).

I tried Kodak Ektar 100, developed it at Target and the blue sky came out dark gray :shock: :lol: Best to have it scanned to experience how the film really performs.

[NLovis]

Yea I went straight to CD. Didnt bother getting it printed. I edited a few of them but I forgot which ones :mrgreen:

[NLovis]

It was Fuji 800 i was using. Here are a few more shots. Fence in the way.
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/02_410.jpg
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/13_1510.jpg
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/17_1910.jpg
Edited shots
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/15_1711.jpg
http://i69.servimg.com/u/f69/14/69/87/53/16_1811.jpg

[Mayi757]

800 speed film will give you too much grain. For such days with bad/low light or if you must shoot a plane that's back-lit (as in that last shot), 400 speed is about the highest you want to be shooting. Grain and lack of sharpness usually increases too much after that.

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[727C47]

you know that graininess gives it a texture though, those shots echo the 707s the way they appear in my minds eye,spewing smoke,roaring like thunder,arcing majestically over Jamaica Bay,Pan AM,TWA,Lufthansa,Braniff,BOAC,etc.etc., those 1st generation jets had presence,and those somewhat grainy shots capture that essence.

[NLovis]

Next time I buy i'll remember that. As for now though I have another 800 in the camera that I have to use or lose. Only problem is I need a zone where 200mm is more then enough. I dont have any lenses that go further.

[Mayi757]

Your camera has a light leak anyways, on a second thought for what you are doing 800 will be fine. And the new 400 and 800 films are much better now than 10 years ago. Beware Kodak 200 speed films are awful though. 400 is actually better.

If you used Fujifilm Superia 800, the reviews for it are actually pretty good http://www.photographyreview.com/mfr/fu ... 20crx.aspx (http://www.photographyreview.com/mfr/fujifilm/print-film/PRD_84431_3120crx.aspx)

727C47, I agree with you. The angles and the shots on this thread are awesome, but (in my opinion) N707JT simply doesn't look good (or right) on digital. Film grain texture gives the photo character and snap, make it look more real than digital, which despite grainless and neatness is flat/boring in comparison.

[727C47]

I saw 707Jt at LAX ,in January 08,I was at the old Imperial terminal,when she rotated right in front of us, and banked away streaming smoke,that JT3 scream/roar washing over us,man talk about presence ! An A320 has nothing on that !

[NLovis]

You can say that again. The only other planes that have a presence are the DC-9's, Mad Dogs, and the 747 classics (100 and 200). Anyway where is the leak?