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PhilDernerJr
2009-11-23, 02:12 PM
:arrow: KLM Flies First Passenger Flight Using Biofuel (http://nycaviation.com/2009/11/23/klm-flies-first-passenger-flight-using-biofuel/)

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T-Bird76
2009-11-23, 02:22 PM
Technically this has been done by Virgin Atlantic already.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23321510/

Matt Molnar
2009-11-23, 04:18 PM
Technically this has been done by Virgin Atlantic already.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23321510/
This was the first biofuel flight with passengers on board.

hiss srq
2009-11-23, 06:14 PM
A few carriers have done it actually, Matt is right though, this is the first revenue carrying flight by a carrier. Virgin, Continetal and Air New Zeeland have all done it with various airplanes so far, just not while transporting self loading cargo if memory serves correct. To me this is a very exciting advancement in technology. I think it represents a possibility for carriers to actually create new industries within their companies which will allow them to have a more direct control over operating costs day to day. If they can "grow" their own fuel within limits it will help stableize the industry I think.

Matt Molnar
2009-11-23, 07:04 PM
Also, last month Qatar operated a London-Doha revenue flight with a 777 partially powered by kerosene distilled out of natural gas. Not positive, but I believe this was the first "alt-fuel" revenue flight ever.

Matt Molnar
2009-11-23, 07:06 PM
If they can "grow" their own fuel within limits it will help stableize the industry I think.
We'll see, these fuels are still a lot more expensive than petroleum and there is no infrastructure to transport them yet.

hiss srq
2009-11-23, 07:07 PM
I guess overseas it is a bit more acceptable. If I am not mistaken in the USA though Continental had to label their 737 "Experimental"

T-Bird76
2009-11-23, 07:37 PM
Technically this has been done by Virgin Atlantic already.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23321510/
This was the first biofuel flight with passengers on board.

They were VIP invited guests of KLM and not revenue passengers. Plus the plane landed and departed AMS...hardly a normal passenger flight. KLM can call the flight what they like but the distinction goes to Virgin Atlantic who did it first and flew point to point.

USAF Pilot 07
2009-11-23, 08:00 PM
I thought a B-52 and then C-17 did this about 2 years ago???

cancidas
2009-11-23, 11:51 PM
I thought a B-52 and then C-17 did this about 2 years ago???
they were 50/50 mixed of biofuel and JP8 i think.