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PhilDernerJr
2008-12-10, 01:31 PM
I was just leaving LGA and saw Port Police blocking off the roads as a VIP came in. Short motorcade, but one of the SUVs had the back window open with an armed gentleman keeping watch....so the VIP must have been somewhat important.

Gen Av parking looked pretty full, but nothing really stood out.

Anyone know?

njgtr82
2008-12-10, 01:35 PM
I was just leaving LGA and saw Port Police blocking off the roads as a VIP came in. Short motorcade, but one of the SUVs had the back window open with an armed gentleman keeping watch....so the VIP must have been somewhat important.

Gen Av parking looked pretty full, but nothing really stood out.

Anyone know?

this happened around noon?

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-10, 01:38 PM
Yep, little a couple minutes after. I got out of class at 12 on the dot and left the MAT area immediately, where I saw the 'cade.

emshighway
2008-12-10, 03:17 PM
it was the FLOTUS

Matt Molnar
2008-12-10, 04:24 PM
one of the SUVs had the back window open with an armed gentleman keeping watch
I love those guys. It always invigorates your day to be waiting to cross a street in Manhattan while a VIP motorcade goes by and seeing an angry looking guy peeking out a rear passenger window pointing an M16 at you.

cancidas
2008-12-10, 05:21 PM
C-9A was parked on the E ramp when i pulled into the lot, PAPD was just starting to pop up at all the intersections when i was driving in for a 1200 meeting. this happened around 1140 or so.

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-10, 05:47 PM
Wow, I missed a C-9?

After I saw the motorcade, I gassed up ($1.99!) on Astoria Blvd for about 5 minutes before driving back towards the GCP. I guess the C-9 was gone already.

cancidas
2008-12-10, 06:11 PM
Wow, I missed a C-9?
she wasn't visible from where you were phil. she was parked behind the employee parking lot on the "E" ramp, the same one where kids day has been held in recent years. i have no idea what time she departed though. i stopped in the office for about 15 min before heading downstairs and didn't see her moving yet. my guess is she left sometime after 1215.

Gerard
2008-12-10, 08:54 PM
one of the SUVs had the back window open with an armed gentleman keeping watch
I love those guys. It always invigorates your day to be waiting to cross a street in Manhattan while a VIP motorcade goes by and seeing an angry looking guy peeking out a rear passenger window pointing an M16 at you.

Mmmm, I've seen numerous motorcades over the years and never have seen angry guys pointing weapons at people.
Intense looking agents without a doubt since that is their job. And I believe the M-16 isnt the heavy weapon of choice
of the USSS.

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-10, 09:06 PM
From my own encounter, he didn't look angry and I could not see his weapon...although I know what his job is. My guess would be that he had a G36. or M4. I assume they would need something with decent power and accurate at medium range.

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-10, 09:10 PM
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/049G5oR64Feh4/610x.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/11/07/article-1083501-0262EF91000005DC-712_468x293.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0biI2dw6kU0We/610x.jpg

M4 w/ACOG. I'm good.

Gerard
2008-12-10, 09:39 PM
Phil do ya think ya got a little too close? LOL!! I wouldnt mess with those guys. In fact in the middle pic it looks like they are eye-balling you big time.

cancidas
2008-12-10, 10:16 PM
M4 w/ACOG. I'm good.
M4 yes. ACOG no. that looks more like an Aimpoint sight:
http://www.aimpoint.com/cache/ttf/0ee9ebf3b0eeb4615d.jpg

http://www.aimpoint.com/o.o.i.s?id=47&prev_id=47&product_id=20

what i don't get is why he has an infrared illuminator on it...

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-10, 10:27 PM
Phil do ya think ya got a little too close? LOL!! I wouldnt mess with those guys. In fact in the middle pic it looks like they are eye-balling you big time.

I didn't take those. I found them on the internet. I don't know how well he'd have taken my aiming a canon at him. ;)


M4 yes. ACOG no. that looks more like an Aimpoint sight:
http://www.aimpoint.com/cache/ttf/0ee9ebf3b0eeb4615d.jpg

http://www.aimpoint.com/o.o.i.s?id=47&prev_id=47&product_id=20

what i don't get is why he has an infrared illuminator on it...

Good call on the aimpoint. I admit I am not too familiar with optics and scopes.

cancidas
2008-12-10, 10:34 PM
I didn't take those. I found them on the internet. I don't know how well he'd have taken my aiming a canon at him.
it's a good thing you didn't. in that second shot the photographer had been spotted. the rear-facing agent was already cocking his rifle while the two in the back seat are looking back to identify the threat.

on a side note i was wrong, it's not a infrared but a laser aiming device attached to the barrel.

Gerard
2008-12-11, 12:18 AM
>I didn't take those. I found them on the internet. I don't know how well he'd have taken my aiming a canon at him. ;)<

So was that today? And where did you find them?

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-11, 12:37 AM
Internet.

They are not from today.

Gerard
2008-12-11, 11:20 PM
[=Internet. :|

Uh you said that. Website?

cancidas
2008-12-12, 12:45 AM
[=Internet. :|

Uh you said that. Website?
i think he's being deliberately vague dude.

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-12, 10:05 AM
No, I just used Google.

Image search for "united states secret service suv".

Very simple. I should have gone there before posting about the SUV!

Gerard
2008-12-12, 11:46 AM
[=Internet. :|

Uh you said that. Website?
i think he's being deliberately vague dude.

Ya think? :shock:

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-12, 02:48 PM
I posted where I got it from.

I honestly thought that when I posted those pics, that it would be very obvious that I didn't take them and that I probably got them from a Google search.

Here's another pic I found in the same search:

http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/USPics2/91089.gif

Reagan's assassination attempt. Notice the Uzi that was pulled from the briefcase on the floor. He is still unfolding the stock...which I think sucks. HK MP5-PDWs are a much better SMG for formal protection detail. No suitcase needed, just hide it under your jacket and swing it forward and flip out the fold-out stock and you're ready to rock and roll almost immediately.

http://remtek.com/arms/hk/mil/pdw/pdwrig.gif

Thigh strap!

http://www.scaar.at/airsoft/mp5kholster2.jpg

cancidas
2008-12-12, 03:00 PM
HK MP5-PDWs are a much better SMG for formal protection detail.
agreed! also because of the forward grip you could fire the thing effectively without a stock. but above all, it's an Hk...


don't know if anyone else noticed this, but there's illisnois tags on the suburban in the picture.

PhilDernerJr
2008-12-12, 03:13 PM
That was Obama detail, I believe, hence the IL tags.

The foregrip on the MP5K isn't THAT stable if you're holding it up and trying to get a decently accurate shot, diopter sights or not. In fact, I think it's ridiculous for the MP5K to be used without the stock.

Gerard
2008-12-12, 05:49 PM
>I honestly thought that when I posted those pics, that it would be very obvious that I didn't take them and that I probably got them from a Google search.<

Nothing is obvious at first look!! :lol: