So what fighter was flying around NYC on Veterans Day?

[Wingzero]

It was about 1230 this afternoon when I parked my car outside and heard a very unfamiliar sound. It definitely
wasnt the usual LGA traffic that I hear on a daily basis. It had to be a fighter, but I could not see it. Anybody
out there know what it was?

[njgtr82]

I'm pretty sure it was F-15's, callsign was RAMRD76.

[Wingzero]

Thanks for the reply! I cant believe I missed them. They were really loud! Darn buildings messed up
my chance to see them.

[Mateo]

The RAMRODs (F-15Es from Seymour) were part of the CAP the covered New York for Bush's visit on Tuesday (and again today). According to a milcom monitor, the pair that were on duty at 1230L were RAMROD 15 and 16. RAMROD 75/76 came past Washington around 1245 on their way up to New York so weren't on station yet. If you can't pick out the fighters, you can always hunt for the KC-135R that's there, too.

[Gerard]

The RAMRODs (F-15Es from Seymour) were part of the CAP the covered New York for Bush's visit on Tuesday (and again today). According to a milcom monitor, the pair that were on duty at 1230L were RAMROD 15 and 16. RAMROD 75/76 came past Washington around 1245 on their way up to New York so weren't on station yet. If you can't pick out the fighters, you can always hunt for the KC-135R that's there, too.

Pretty lousy weather today in NYC so do the CAP aircraft still operate?

[N221UA]

I saw a KC-135 on Tuesday over LGA. Heard a few words exchanged on 260.9

[PhilDernerJr]

260.9? Isn't that abnormal for voice communication?

[moose135]

260.9? Isn't that abnormal for voice communication?
That's a UHF frequency, possibly being used for plane-to-plane communications, or air refueling coordination.

[njgtr82]

260.9? Isn't that abnormal for voice communication?
That's a UHF frequency, possibly being used for plane-to-plane communications, or air refueling coordination.

ATC comm as well. EWR, LGA, and JFK all have one UHF frequency for comm. The callsign for the 135 was, Tankr##. I forget what the digits were. Also even with the bad weather, the F-15's will still circle over the city in the 20-25k feet range.

[USAF Pilot 07]

260.9? Isn't that abnormal for voice communication?

Sounds like 260.9 is an aircraft-to-aircraft frequency for aerial refueling operations (or the like) - so I'm guessing the crew had New York Center on victor, and 260.9 (UHF freq) for AR ops between the boom operator and the planes being refueled.

Most (if not all) manned Air Traffic facilities can receive and transmit both on uniform and victor frequencies.

We do the majority of our ATC communication on uniform, even with regional centers or non-military airfields in the local area. We use victor for traffic advisory calls when not IFR, during NTA operations, when talking to our "dispatch office" or while in formation (or if we have UHF failure).

I do think standard ops most other places are to use VHF as primary and UHF as secondary or as necessary or as local procedure dictates.

[Gerard]

> Also even with the bad weather, the F-15's will still circle over the city in the 20-25k feet range.[/quote]<

Thanks.