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PhilDernerJr
2007-04-22, 06:37 PM
Mel and I were sitting in Central Park snacking on food we got from Pick A Bagel when we heard a helicopters.

We looked up to see two Presidential Sikorsky's and three Chinooks at about 1:30pm.

Anyone know if Bush was here?

Unrelated, but we were at home sitting on the couch and there was an NYPD Agusta A-119 Koala, N318PD, was circling over our Astoria compound for a while.

SP-LPB
2007-04-22, 08:17 PM
I noticed a Chinook flying over the East River just before 2 pm.

hiss srq
2007-04-22, 08:41 PM
Me and Matt spotted that. No one could figure out what was going on past recognizing them. I checked approach freq. and they were not on there.

cancidas
2007-04-22, 11:05 PM
was two SH-3s and three CH-46s, at least that's what i think i saw. phil, are you sure you they were chinooks? the USN/ USMC doesn't fly them, so my guess was the -46. they look alike in profile, so i understood why i too said chinook at first.

PhilDernerJr
2007-04-22, 11:18 PM
Could have been 47 or 46. I don't know what POTUS flies with.

SCOTYDEMCO
2007-04-22, 11:25 PM
They were def 46's. Very standard President crew with 3 dark green ch-46's and some SH-3's with the green and white. Hope they didn't block the sun too long to mess up your tan. :)

hiss srq
2007-04-22, 11:47 PM
From my view they were way to far out to see but When me Matt and Ron spotted them they were zipping around the empire state building. I wonder what was going on though because when I was leaving LGA there were a pair of motorcades down by shuttle arrival waiting for some important people.

Tom_Turner
2007-04-23, 12:41 AM
I was over at Floyd Bennett and noticed a C-130 came into JFK in the early afternoon; apart from that, I didn't see anything special.

Sometimes it seems these choppers come by a week or so ahead of time. Maybe there'll be a visit next week or something like that?

Matt Molnar
2007-04-23, 02:05 AM
Neither Bush nor Cheney were in town today and I can't find anything about them visiting anytime soon. Could have been a movie shoot or something.

cancidas
2007-04-23, 06:08 AM
Neither Bush nor Cheney were in town today and I can't find anything about them visiting anytime soon. Could have been a movie shoot or something.

maybe not today, sunday but there is a TFR posted for tuesday so get ready guys.



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AOPA ePilot Special Airspace Bulletin April 20, 2007
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A special notice to pilots in the New York City area


==> ATTENTION PILOTS <==

FAA TO ESTABLISH TFR OVER NEW YORK CITY ON TUESDAY
AOPA is sending this message to advise pilots in and near New York,
New York, that the FAA has issued a notam restricting flight in the
area during President Bush's planned visit on Tuesday, April 24.

Matt Molnar
2007-04-23, 12:19 PM
Oh. Cool.

lijk604
2007-04-23, 01:20 PM
Here it is...

FDC NOTAM 7/8816 has been released for the New York, NY area on 04/24/07.


A 12NM TFR centered on the LGA326004.6 prohibits GA operations at Teterboro/TEB, New York LaGuardia/LGA and all Manhattan Heliports from 1210L (1610z) until 1945L (2345z) on 04/24/07. Please note that Newark/EWR falls outside of the 12NM TFR however its close proximity to the TFR might prohibit GA operations if using certain runway configurations.

A pair of 7NM TFRs centered on the JFK331000.7 prohibit GA operations at New York Kennedy Intl/JFK from 1145L (1545z) until 1250L (1650z) and again from 1905L (2305z) until 2010L (0010z) on 04/24/07.

A TFR which encompasses the New York Class B Airspace has additional restrictions as specified in the NOTAM between the 7NM/12NM and the outer boundaries of the Class B Airspace from 1145L (1545z) until 2010L (0010z).

Definitely a POTUS TFR...actually this should mean AF1 @ JFK between 1145 and 2010. Cam up!

Mateo
2007-04-23, 08:14 PM
From ABC's The Note regarding Tuesday's schedule:
President Bush delivers 1:20 pm ET remarks on No Child Left Behind reauthorization at Harlem Village Academy Charter School, and at 6:00 pm ET attends a private Republican National Committee Dinner in New York City.

The POTUS aerial motorcade is typically made up of VH-3s and VH-46s from HMX-1, based at Quantico. The squadron also operates VH-60s and CH-53s. When I happened upon a dress rehersal for a Presidential visit in Manassas, VA a couple of months ago, it was 2 VH-3s, a CH-46, and a VH-46.

cancidas
2007-04-23, 08:36 PM
C-40 departed LGA today as i was walking in, and i saw 2 C-130s when i was at JFK earlier in the day.

hiss srq
2007-04-23, 09:47 PM
I did not see any of it today. Departed at 0642 for CLT. Bummer!

Chris102
2007-04-23, 10:41 PM
Have fun tomorrow!

I'm looking forward to some pictures!

:D

GrummanFan
2007-04-24, 06:54 PM
I was just watching the news, and apparantly he landed in the middle of Central Park. Bet none of us saw that one coming. Did he take AF1 to one of the airports, then the choppers from there?

kc2aqg
2007-04-24, 08:01 PM
FYI I heard "Air Force One" cleared for takeoff off of 13R from JFK about a half hour ago (7:30 PM). Wish I could have been at Inwood!!!

PhilDernerJr
2007-04-24, 08:13 PM
I saw it takeoff at that time and it was REALLY cool. I'd never seen Air Force One before.

There is also a C-5 sitting in the middle of nowhere on a taxiway alongside 22/4.

LGA777
2007-04-24, 08:24 PM
In support of Bush's NYC visit LGA received a C32 (757) and C20 (G2) this afternoon. Last night Laura Bush departed around 1930 in a C40 (BBJ).

Phil. glad you got to see AF1 depart, always a thrill.

Regards

LGA777

hiss srq
2007-04-24, 08:30 PM
Urrr why am I in CLT!?!?

Chris102
2007-04-24, 08:37 PM
In support of Bush's NYC visit LGA received a C32 (757) and C20 (G2) this afternoon. Last night Laura Bush departed around 1930 in a C40 (BBJ).

Phil. glad you got to see AF1 depart, always a thrill.

Regards

LGA777

Do they still use the callsign "Air Force Two Foxtrot" for the First Lady's plane?

LGA777
2007-04-25, 12:08 AM
No Chris, when the First Lady is onboard, and the Pres or Vice Pres is not the call sign is "Executive One Foxtrot".

Regards

LGA777

cancidas
2007-04-25, 03:00 AM
Urrr why am I in CLT!?!?

LOL!! don't worry, this happens all the time to us. you walk to the kitchen and miss 3 vip movments. all in a day's work. but HAHA anyway!




No Chris, when the First Lady is onboard, and the Pres or Vice Pres is not the call sign is "Executive One Foxtrot".

why the foxtrot on the end?

PhilDernerJr
2007-04-25, 08:02 AM
The foxtrot probably stands for First Lady.

Matt Molnar
2007-04-25, 11:11 AM
I think it's "family," because when the VP's wife (who isn't the first lady) is flying the callsign is "Executive Two Foxtrot."

In other news, I hear that Marine One used a baseball field in Central Park as a landing pad when ferrying the President to Harlem yesterday. If only they made such info public ahead of time...that would have been quite a shot.

LGA777
2007-04-25, 08:08 PM
I did not realize the Vice Presidents wife needed to be flown around the country or world in a Gulfstream or larger without the Vice President and at US Taxpayers expense? And even have her very own ATC callsign !

Regards

LGA777