An all white USAF 757

[mirrodie]

Just been wondering.

I once saw, back in 2002, an all white USAF 757 stop into FRG. I was at Borders preparing for my boards when I saw it tazzing over by he now Shelt AIr.

By the time I got home and back, it was gone.

The regi was 25001. Seems there are no pics of it on Anet or jetphotos.


Is it a Ghost?!

[Tom_Turner]

Maybe its like those unmarked 707s James Baker (Was it him?) and company flew to Iran to get the Iran Contra business started.

Tom

[moose135]

From http://home.att.net/~jbaugher/2002.html (a great source for USAF tail numbers)


02-5001 Boeing C-32B - Another mysterious Boeing 757 apparently operated by US State Department Foreign Emergency Support Team - serial is 'guessed' from tail number 25001. Is apparently c/n 25494 which would make it ex N987AN.

N987AN is an ex-Avianca bird. There is a photo on myaviation.net - http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_ ... d=00769349 (http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00769349) but it's a little confusing. The caption says the photo is from 1994, while the tail number decodes to a 2002 series, but the plot thickens. http://scramble.nl/milbase.htm (my other favorite military reg site) notes 02-5001 as now registered as 99-6143. The above web site lists this for 99-6143:


99-6143 Boeing C-32B - Another mysterious Boeing 757 apparently operated by US State Dept Foreign Emergency Support Team - serial is 'guessed' from tail number 96143. To add to the confusion, it has been supposed that this aircraft MAY be 25001 repainted

So yes, Mario, it may be a ghost 8)

[SengaB]

There are also four C-32Bs (used civil 757-200ERs), operated by the US Foreign Emergency Support Team in a white livery with small USAF markings. Their numbers are 98-6006, 99-6143, 00-9001 and 02-5001. They are apparently operated by the 486 th flight test wing on behalf of other US agencies, maybe including the CIA.

Senga

[moose135]

Come on now, Senga, don't disappoint me - tell us you have shots of these birds! :wink:

[SengaB]

!!,
As hard as it may be to believe....I dont have this one!....
Its just a matter of time though :)
Senga

[Mateo]

The best knowledge to date (supposedly confirmed by someone with access to Boeing's fleet data) is that c/n 25494 wears 09001 [00-9001]. I've seen it as such at IAD on 12Sep06, without the U.S. Air Force titles and roundel. The only clue to its identity was the standard 12x18" American flag next to the registration.

The other one is c/n 25493 as 24452 [02-4452]. As far as anyone knows, there are only two of the all-white USAF 757s.

[Matt Molnar]

Is it a Ghost?!
You're going to wish it were when the Men in Black get to your house and erase your memories of that day. :shock:

[mirrodie]

A Ha!!!


So wait, you mean to suggest that Mario amy have seen a plane that Steve, Tom and Senga may not yet have seen? Now that IS rare! ;)

02-5001 That's her. She seems elusive. Of course, it was back in 2002, I didnt have a dslr back then, only my ....wow maybe I had 5 mp digi back then? I dont even recall. I can say though it arrived, and departed FRG in under 2 hours. And I could see an office, almost looking like a boardroom, on the aircraft. She was parked by the fence at FRG, the same place Canyon BLue parked when she got hte Hofstra players.

Very cool.

[markg]

Sit under the approach at McGuire for a couple of days and you'll see them, as that's where they are based!

[markg]

An all white 757 went into McGuire around 10am this morning. Not sure which one, I was about 1 mile from home at the time :-(

[nwafan20]

Interesting! Does anyone know what plane Pelosi uses? Is it an all-white 757 or one painted like Air Force 2?

[PhilDernerJr]

I think she flies in a Gulfstream or Citation or something. Not an Air Force jet, from what I understand.

[nwafan20]

I think she flies in a Gulfstream or Citation or something. Not an Air Force jet, from what I understand.

I thought she demanded a 752 and got it?

[727C47]

she rates it as speaker of the house.

[Clipper]

FWIW, here are all the US Air Force 757 listed in trade data base:

Status Mfr & Type Variant Reg. No. Serial No. Line No. Build Year Operator Manager Owner Engines Seats MTOW (lbs) Hours Cycles Effective Age Usage MinorVariant Operator Area OperatorCountry Generic Market Value ($m)(Variant/Build Year) Dated - Sept-2006 Financiers Noise Code Noise Level
In service Boeing 757 200 (RR) 02-4452 25493 523 1993 US Air Force US Air Force US Air Force RB211-535E4 0 250000 15956 8930 9/30/2006 14 Special Role / Operations / Mission 23A North America USA 12.80 3 FAA FAR Part 36 Stage 3/ICAO Annex 16 Vol.1 Chapter 3
In service Boeing 757 200 (RR) 00-9001 25494 611 1994 US Air Force US Air Force US Air Force RB211-535E4 0 250000 24320 10740 3/31/2006 13 Special Role / Operations / Mission 23A North America USA 13.80 3 FAA FAR Part 36 Stage 3/ICAO Annex 16 Vol.1 Chapter 3
In service Boeing 757 200 (P&W) 98-0001 29025 783 1998 US Air Force US Air Force Boeing PW2000-2040 45 255000 4151 3227 5/31/2005 9 VIP / Government operated C-32A North America USA 18.30 3 FAA FAR Part 36 Stage 3/ICAO Annex 16 Vol.1 Chapter 3
In service Boeing 757 200 (P&W) 98-0002 29026 787 1998 US Air Force US Air Force Boeing PW2000-2040 45 255000 5594 5491 5/31/2005 9 VIP / Government operated C-32A North America USA 18.30 3 FAA FAR Part 36 Stage 3/ICAO Annex 16 Vol.1 Chapter 3
In service Boeing 757 200 (P&W) 99-0003 29027 824 1998 US Air Force US Air Force US Air Force PW2000-2040 45 255000 4771 4424 5/31/2005 9 VIP / Government operated C-32A North America USA 18.30 3 FAA FAR Part 36 Stage 3/ICAO Annex 16 Vol.1 Chapter 3
In service Boeing 757 200 (P&W) 99-0004 29028 829 1998 US Air Force US Air Force US Air Force PW2000-2040 45 255000 3808 3622 5/31/2005 9 VIP / Government operated C-32A North America USA 18.30 3 FAA FAR Part 36 Stage 3/ICAO Annex 16 Vol.1 Chapter 3

[Clipper]

Here is the owner history for MSN 25494

Date Event Description Reg. No. Operator Manager Owner AirlineSub-Lessor 1 OwnerParticipant 1 OwnerParticipant 2 OwnerTrustee Engines Hushkit Storage Location Variant Minor Variant Usage Status
16-Nov-1988 Option placed AWAS AWAS AWAS RB211-535E4 200 (RR) 23A Passenger On Option
22-Apr-1994 Order placed for new aircraft - later delivered N987AN AWAS AWAS AWAS RB211-535E4 200 (RR) 23A Passenger On Order
22-Apr-1994 On order - lease arranged N987AN Avianca AWAS AWAS RB211-535E4 200 (RR) 23A Passenger On Order
22-Apr-1994 Delivered (hand over) N987AN Avianca AWAS AWAS RB211-535E4 200 (RR) 23A Passenger In Service
22-Apr-1994 Purchased - sale to S.P.C. by lessor on delivery N987AN Avianca AWAS AWAS Wilmington Trust Company RB211-535E4 200 (RR) 23A Passenger In Service
22-Apr-1994 Financed N987AN Avianca AWAS AWAS Shawmut Bank Connecticut NA Wilmington Trust Company RB211-535E4 200 (RR) 23A Passenger In Service
29-Oct-1998 Title transferred to Trustee N987AN Avianca AWAS AWAS Shawmut Bank Connecticut NA State Street Bank & Trust Co RB211-535E4 200 (RR) 23A Passenger In Service
02-Nov-2000 Returned off sub-lease - parked N987AN Ansett Worldwide Aviation USA AWAS AWAS Shawmut Bank Connecticut NA State Street Bank & Trust Co RB211-535E4 Unknown location 200 (RR) 23A Passenger Stored
02-Nov-2000 Purchased off lease / finance term completed - parked N987AN Ansett Worldwide Aviation USA Ansett Worldwide Aviation USA Ansett Worldwide Aviation USA RB211-535E4 Unknown location 200 (RR) 23A Passenger Stored
02-Nov-2000 Purchased - parked N987AN Raytheon E-Systems Inc Raytheon E-Systems Inc Raytheon E-Systems Inc RB211-535E4 Unconfirmed location in USA 200 (RR) 23A Passenger Stored
02-Nov-2000 Purchased - parked N987AN US Air Force US Air Force US Air Force RB211-535E4 Unconfirmed location in USA 200 (RR) 23A Passenger Stored
21-Dec-2001 Re-registered - parked 00-9001 US Air Force US Air Force US Air Force RB211-535E4 Unconfirmed location in USA 200 (RR) 23A Passenger Stored
Mar-2005 Returned to operation 00-9001 US Air Force US Air Force US Air Force RB211-535E4 200 (RR) 23A Special Role / Operations / Mission In Service

[Hwyman]

I use an ADS-B receiver to keep track of aircraft flying over South Florida. My log for Jan 19th shows the following:
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02-5001 Boeing B757-23A -------- AE0433 United State us 20/01/2011 01:45 101.54km - 39.85km
AE0433 -------- 02-5001 B752 20/01/2011 01:45:18 101.54km - 38.97km
AE0433 -------- 02-5001 B752 9875 1500 20/01/2011 01:45:18
-=============================================
Due to receiver confoguration times are GMT and distance is kilometers.
I find it very interesting that this aircraft has a mode S transponder transmitting its position at all times. My guess is there was not much secrecy around this flight.
I have not looked at the logs in more detail but it seems that it was landing at either KFLL or KMIA which are about the same distance from my receiving location. I can also guess that it was coming from over the Atlantic, otherwise I would have detected it sooner than when it was 100 km away
Interesting bird...looking at my log files I also see that an E-6B is a frequent visitor to my area also transmitting its position via ADS-B Mode S and using the callsign GOTOFMS. if anyone is interested in ADS-B extract showing interesting aircraft over the area, let me know.

Ivan
www.floridaspotters.net (http://www.floridaspotters.net)
www.coolairplanes.net (http://www.coolairplanes.net)

[mirrodie]

02-5001. So has anyone else seen it or am I still hte lone NYCA spotter of this ghost?!

[cancidas]

I think she flies in a Gulfstream or Citation or something. Not an Air Force jet, from what I understand.

commercial as well... witnessed her arriving from PIT once, before she was fired.