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hiss srq
2006-12-18, 12:20 PM
Yesterday I sent Idle and Collura home on N914DL the MD-88 that hit the approach lights and pulled a 180 ruptureing the fuel tanks at LGA . That got me thinking (uh oh look out) about how many other people have been on planes that have been involved in minor or major incidents. I was on a Delta 727 (N533DA) in August 1996 going from LGA-to TPA that encountered some issues after the number two engine compressor stalled (common on the 727) and destroyed most of the third stage and all of the fourth stage turbine blades spitting them out to land on some guys driveway in Flushing. We dumped 15K and made a landing at JFK on 13 Right shortly thereafter... The irony of it all was this was about one month after TWA 800 and our flight number was 801. I was with my aunt on this flight and before this my dad was joking with her about our flight number being 801. This actually was a contributing factor to how I became drawn to be a pilot. I have also hit birds a pair of times flying. (bad luck with birds as a pilot)

Mellyrose
2006-12-18, 12:36 PM
Sorry for the shameless plug! For some reason I always remember this MD-80's regi when I hear it. (N914DL):

http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5828053

I don't know if I've ever been on an aircraft previously involved in an incident. I don't know if I'd WANT to know, lol.

Ari707
2006-12-18, 12:58 PM
I was on an AA B757 and we had an aborted T/O at LGA on a rainy day. not much of an incident but a bit scary at the time.

RDU-JFK
2006-12-18, 12:59 PM
2 Pseudo-Incidents:

1. In August 2001 I was on a KLM MD-11 flight from AMS-JFK. We were sitting at the gate when police surrounded the aircraft. We were told there was a "fugitive stowaway" in the cargo hold. We were delayed 2 hours and we were told that no one was found. Also, Dutch police boarded the aircraft and removed a family of 3 of Middle Eastern descent, and 2 members returned on board 30 mins later.

2. FLying from MDW to LGA on an ATA 757-200 in 2003. We took off from Chicago delayed due to weather in the northeast. We were skirting T-storms the whole way, and we circled over Pennsylvania for awhile. We were told that we had to divert to PHL because of the weather and fuel situation. Upon approach there was a birdstrike on the windscreen, and we had a further 3 hour delay. We were allowed to de-plane, and I took a peek in the cockpit. The windscreen was so disgusting!!

SCOTYDEMCO
2006-12-18, 02:10 PM
One Pseudo and one serious.

1. We had a group of 42 guys flying to Montreal out of LGA for a bachelor party. One of our friends came up as "high risk" as the papd said. The snow and rain delayed us for 4 hours. My friend was questioned by the Feds, and our whole flight was almost cancelled as a result, and due to the large party of people. All was sorted out and 4 hours later after a $1,600.00 bar and food bill at Chilli's we were all drunk and took off, though some idiots in the party got some special treatment at customs in Canada.

2. When I was a freshman in College we went to Acapulco for spring break. When departing to return home we took off on Planet Air, charter flight, and lost an engine shortly after takeoff. We had to land back at Acapulco. we were stuck there for 3 days and there were no hotel vacancys anywhere due to the Easter holidays. I ended up staying with a bunch of girls from Texas A&M until I got a flight back to JFK. Thank you again for the help girls! :)

Mellyrose
2006-12-18, 03:48 PM
Ok, maybe I misunderstood the original question....or was it just totally unclear. Were you asking whether people had been on a plane while an incident occurred, or one that had previously been involved?

hiss srq
2006-12-18, 03:56 PM
eaither or actually. Those who have been onboard one that has had an accident or an incident onboard.

Ari707
2006-12-18, 04:04 PM
I have a friend who flys for FedEx and she says that the DC-10 where the F/O??? went bezerk with the fire ax still has dents in the cockpit ceiling....

Matt Molnar
2006-12-18, 04:37 PM
http://www.brandhype.org/albums/castaway/CastAway_2000_104.sized.jpg
Me and my friend Wilson ^^^ :(

N790SW
2006-12-18, 05:16 PM
I havent but I heard a story in which someone flew the same plane that went down as TWA flight 800- he got a picture with the same flight crew that died on that plane, it was the same flight number too, talk about flight to remeber.

K9DEP
2006-12-18, 05:38 PM
went opposite direction on downwind for a touch and go at KISP

Ari707
2006-12-18, 05:49 PM
my sister was supposed to be on PA 103, my mom still has the ticket!

Matt Molnar
2006-12-18, 06:13 PM
An old friend of mine was supposed to be aboard flight 800 en route to Rome. For whatever reason, his parents switched to a direct flight a couple days before.

moose135
2006-12-18, 09:54 PM
I was fortunate to never have any serious incidents in my flying career, just a few minor things, like the time we sucked a bird into an engine during a touch & go in the KC-135. No major damage, but the tower saw some smoke out the back (probably crispy bird bits) so we came around using 3-engine procedures & made a full stop. One time we thought we had a fuel leak from one of the body tanks (turned out to be a bad gage), so we made an early landing with the fire trucks standing by. One other time we had the fire trucks roll when we had huge compressor stall during an alert cartridge start, and had a big flash of fire out the front.

A few similar minor incidents in the T-37 & T-38 where we thought we had some sort of engine issue. Also, once while flying solo while leading a two-ship T-38 formation, my wingman lost radios and I got to lead him back home.

There was one time in the T-37 where I scared myself to the point I thought about ejecting :shock: I was flying solo in the airwork area, doing aerobatics...as a solo student, all you could do was aerobatics, no stalls or spins, etc, just pull G's till you puke :D

I started a loop, airspeed 250kts, pull 5 Gs, up over the top. Only thing was, as the airspeed bled off, I forgot to keep pulling, so instead of making a nice, smooth loop, it just sort of floated over the top. I found myself upside down, with no airspeed (the a/s indicator on the T-37 started at 60kts, and it was off the scale). At that point two thoughts went through my head - I was 500 feet below the top of my airspace block, so ATC wouldn't bust me, and I was at 13,000 feet, so I had plenty of altitude if I had to punch out. I released the stick & unloaded the wing, kicked some rudder to roll upright, and lowered the nose to build airspeed. I spent the rest of the time flying border patrol until I was at bingo fuel, then flew back to a full stop.

N790SW
2006-12-18, 11:03 PM
my sister was supposed to be on PA 103, my mom still has the ticket!

You think its possible to get a picture of that, it would deffinatly be a sight to see.

Ari707
2006-12-19, 10:53 AM
I'll ask next time Italk to my mom

Matt Molnar
2006-12-19, 11:06 AM
my sister was supposed to be on PA 103, my mom still has the ticket!

Not that you would want to sell it, but it must be worth something.

hiss srq
2006-12-19, 11:21 AM
That would probably be a goldmine if you ever found yourself in a major pinch. I would be pretty torn that is defineately some history there.

Ari707
2006-12-19, 11:55 AM
My sister was in Israel and was supposed to spend a few days in London on her way home but desided to stay in Israel with friends, once she did manage to get on a plane to come home the FBI came to our house to talk to her as to why she wasn't on the plane..

cancidas
2006-12-19, 05:49 PM
not sure if this qualifies as an incident, but i was once told to go around due to an aircraft on the runway. he was at the opposite end and there were a good 4000 ft between us. since we were like 10 ft above the raunway we were told to go around, my respnose was "unable." we set down the airplane and after ground cleared us to taxi to parknig they gave us the number for the FSDO at the field. that was the last transmission from them. once we were shut down and were securing the airplane a FAA car pulled up and an inspector popped out to talk to us. we skipped out a fine because the controller gave us the go around instruction so late. in fact, if we had gone around we could ahve easily hit the piper arrow that was in the upwind! the aircraft was a G-IIB that i got checked out in a while ago out in AZ while i was in school.


i have a few more good stories, but those i can't talk about due to thier nature. maybe someday...

Nonstop2AUH
2006-12-19, 07:10 PM
A few years ago I was on a BA flight from LHR to JFK (747-200 for those who care) that climbed suddenly and without warning while somewhere around Providence. The seatbelt sign wasn't on so people were around the cabin, going to the lav or putting things in the overhead so they got tossed pretty violently. I was seated and felt some combination of falling and like I was being pushed into my seat. The FAs looked really horrified, as if it was something they certainly didn't consider normal, but they did what they were supposed to do and took their seats. After leveling off, the flight deck came on the PA and with typical British understatement said something like "as some of you may have noticed, we had a technical issue but things have returned to normal."

The rest of the flight was uneventful except that on arrival at the gate, they kept everyone in their seats while an EMS team boarded to attend to some people who had been cut or otherwise injured. I always wondered what exactly had happened (of course there was no followup from BA) and found this incident (which at the time was reported in Newsday) in the FAA database, apparently the subsequent investigation determined that the cause was a malfunction with the autopilot that commanded a rapid
ascent.

For those of you interested in the technicalities (not all of which I understand), you can read about it here, with more technical details linked to the brief:

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_i ... 0563&key=1 (http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X20563&key=1)

I don't understand enough of this to know how serious an incident it was or how much worse it could have been, but if any of you know I'd love to hear your thoughts.

DHG750R
2006-12-20, 07:00 AM
I was working the night US405 went down . Happened to just transfer to LGA from JFK 3 weeks before so I was on the ramp . I'll spare you the gory details . After watching it be deiced for the 2nd time , I went back to work only to be jared by the noise and flash. I was among the first to arrive at the scene..
http://www.airdisaster.com/photos/us405/photo.shtml

I witnessed several others , including the Delta flight that struck the pier , http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0349317/L/


CO MD80 that overran runway 13 and ended up nose down in the mud. Just missed
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0108498/L/


While I was still at JFK , we had one notable incident whee an Alitalia 747 ripped one of our F28's rudder from it's mounting http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_i ... 3524&key=2 (http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20001212X23524&key=2)