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mirrodie
2006-10-20, 03:38 PM
Up until recently, I never really cared for small Airbuses and only liked seeing the 330 and 340. But now having seen the CSA 310 come in, I have really grown to love this plane.

Who else has used it in the USA? I recently saw a few photos that Delta had them but who else. What routes did they utilize most?

hiss srq
2006-10-20, 03:49 PM
Well Fed Ex runs the majority if I am not mistaken and alot of East European carriers fly it. Delta did get a grip of them from PanAm at one point as we.. AirJamiaca had a bunch of them flying around for several years as well between mo bay the US and UK. Really other than that you have to liik to the military in Canada or Europe to see alot of them.

SengaB
2006-10-20, 03:58 PM
I have always been a fan of the A310. I wish more airlines still had them.

Senga

hiss srq
2006-10-20, 04:00 PM
They are certainly up there in nice airliners they even have IFE on some. One thing I noticed is that the AOA is very high at low airspeeds in that bird on final approach when we would land at Montego Bay in them for instance it almost felt like the captain was getting ready to go missed lol.

SengaB
2006-10-20, 04:26 PM
I know hwat you mean Hiss,
Check out this AOA :)!! Taken fro the mounds and pik is level.
http://www.nycaviation.com/hosting/ein.jpg
It would feel strange to be in the back of the plane on this flight.

Senga

hiss srq
2006-10-20, 04:44 PM
Flareing early anyone? lol

lijk604
2006-10-20, 05:21 PM
But now having seen the CSA 310 come in, I have really grown to love this plane.

Who else has used it in the USA? I recently saw a few photos that Delta had them but who else. What routes did they utilize most?

Not sure of the routes but Delta did use them (most likely on Euro trips)
Pan Am used them before that. Don't forget UPS they also fly the A310F
Air France used them for a while back in the 80's....that's all I can remember now.

hiss srq
2006-10-20, 05:24 PM
UPS flys the A-300-600F but Delta ran them to the UK and Germany mainly till their demise in the fleet

LGA777
2006-10-20, 10:26 PM
For those of you who have only been active local spotters for the last few years prior to the advent of the A-330 the A-310 was actually a pretty frequent visitor at JFK with numerous European carriers flying them. As mentioned above for a short period of time Pan Am flew many European routes with the aircraft from JFK. I have only flown on one once, JFK-DUS on LH in Biz. Great flight, was given complimentary LH Senetors club access at JFK, and was also granted a cockpit visit mid flight and again for the dark arrival in DUS. At the time LH flew them to both DUS and TXL nonstop from JFK, this was I believe in the mid 90's. The aircraft I flew on like most of the former LH 310 fleet is now with Fedex !

Cheers

LGA777

PhilDernerJr
2006-10-20, 11:28 PM
Doesn't Royal Jordanian Cargo bring in the A310 a bit?

hiss srq
2006-10-20, 11:32 PM
yessir they do I am not sure what the schedule is but they certainly do

Iberia A340-600
2006-10-20, 11:47 PM
Another airline that brings in the A310 to JFK is Air Plus Comet.

Nonstop2AUH
2006-10-21, 12:38 PM
I always liked the A310 because it's relatively small but the Airbus cabin cross section makes it feel particularly roomy.

Not sure if it ever gets down to the NYC area but SATA (Air Azores) has an A310 on a regular schedule between BOS and Ponta Delgada. Must be an interesting flight.

I believe Delta flew some of the ex PAA aircraft on longhaul domestic flights for awhile, I remember flying a Delta A310 (with a former Pan Am cabin crew) between JFK and PDX in about 1995.

Emirates also used to have a bunch of them that they flew from DXB to Europe and Asia as well as around the Middle East back when there was less demand for DXB flights. Today I think the 310 would be considered too small for their current fleet, but I had a nice experience flying one from DXB-SIN-MEL and reverse in around '97, they even had PTVs in economy back then.

mirrodie
2006-10-21, 01:07 PM
I was looking at more photos and didnt know that the 310 does not have the joystick but the more traditional yoke.


you learn and learn more everyday!

I have tseen the Air Plus Comet.....talk about weird names, huh?

Mateo
2006-10-22, 10:49 AM
The Azores flight also runs out of YYZ.

Air Transat, Air Algerie, and Air India are the other major 310 operators, but the largest single fleet belongs to Fedex, with 68 (over a quarter of 310s ever built). There are no US-regged pax carriers remaining.

SengaB
2006-10-22, 11:39 AM
SATA also flies to PVD (Providence, RI) I'm not 100 percent they are still doing this but it was a few times a week there.

Senga

Tom_Turner
2006-10-22, 03:45 PM
We used to get the Tarom A310 at JFK until they dropped the route about a year ago or so.

Emirates still has a few cargo on non US routes - though at least one is used to transport horses, and with a lot of luck, that one can be seen in the US.

TAP brings them into EWR as well as the A330s.

I believe Delta was unhappy the A310s had to sometimes make a stop on the way back from Europe, or so I have been told...

Tom

727C47
2006-10-23, 09:09 AM
We get the occasional FDX A 310 here at DTW, along with the occasional MD-11.

lijk604
2006-10-23, 09:47 AM
TAROM!!! I forgot about them, thanks Tom.

Ari707
2006-10-23, 10:54 AM
LH, AF, KLM, TAP, PIA Air Jamaica, Tarom, Aeroflote, Air Afrique, Aerolineas Argentinas, Viasa, Sabena, all brought them into JFK at some point, The Delta 310's were ex- Pan -AM's , I'm sure there are others I can't think of but this should be most that came into JFK

DHG750R
2006-10-25, 01:44 AM
Emirates used to fly the A310 in passinger service but they were soon replaced by the A330-200's . They have reacquired 3 which are now in service as freighters. They have been to the US on occasion . JFK , FLL and LAS are the cities I know for sure .

The A310 was born out of need for longer range out of the existing A300 airframe to better compete with the 767 series, they shrunk it a-la A330-200 / 747SP for example