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Midnight Mike
2006-02-02, 05:24 PM
Aero-News Alert: Embry-Riddle Dumps CAPT
Thu, 02 Feb '06
Preliminary Information... Official Press Release Coming Today

The instructors and students of Embry-Riddle's CAPT (Commercial Airline Pilot Training) Program are being informed today that their program is a lame duck. Those currently in the program will finish their training, lest Riddle have to refund their money -- refunds are the wolfsbane of Riddle administrators. But effective immediately, no new pilots are being recruited. As each segment of the remaining students' training is completed, the instructors will be offered other positions -- or let go.

A formal press release is supposed to be issued at three PM.
Ab-initio training for pilots who already have university degrees is a hot market, but it doesn't fit into the long term plans of the Board of Trustees, which can be encapsulated as:
abandoning the training of professional pilots as a major focus of the university.

focusing instead on expanding the business department of the college, currently well-known in the industry as the fallback major for marginal students that flunk out of Aero Sci;
expanding into foreign nations. One controversial move in that direction is to establish a campus in Doha, Qatar, which will teach Arab students who cannot or will not come to study in the USA; in the long run it may retain "Aeronautical" in the name, but only because it trains engineers and managers for aviation, as a less than wholehearted focus.

There may be something to that, if they could pull it off -- is it a better career to be a United pilot, or Glenn Tilton?

The interim President selected by the Board of Trustees, Dr. John Johnson, is neither an aviator nor interested in aviation. His first act was to cancel the lease on the Citation jet that had shuttled administrators between the Daytona and Prescott, AZ campuses. The jet was viewed by faculty, especially business department and liberal- arts faculty, as a wasteful extravagance.

There is a possibility that CAPT or something very much like it may be reborn under another corporate or academic banner. CAPT has been under the hammer for some time, and was visited by Alteon, NetJets, CAE and other possible suitors. Riddle is known to have received letters of intent for the program as a whole, but has apparently decided to pull the plug rather than sell the program intact. It was a very expensive program that may never have achieved break-even; the initial Managing Director estimated that break-even was 100 pilots a year.

This is not a complete shock to the faculty and students. Johnson indicated shortly after being named that he was targeting CAPT, and some high-value personnel have already left for competing flight- training operations. Now that the program is officially in run-out mode, it will take an extremely free hand with retention-bonus money to keep the program from imploding before its scheduled windup date.

It will be a shock, however, to CAPT's partner airlines. A recent placement team visit to several airlines was successful, with several new airlines, including American Eagle, agreeing to accept CAPT graduates at reduced minimums. Of the lines which have hired CAPT graduates already, all have commented on their readiness for initial orientation and training, and most have asked for more graduates.

The secret to CAPT's success at producing superior pilots was its highly selective admissions standards. As a school, it can administer much more in-depth pre-admission tests than an employer can, under Federal laws. The preferred test scores at CAPT were normed to a sample of airlines' self-defined model employees, in a conscious attempt to produce crew members with the cognitive and personality traits most valued by the airlines.
The methodology is sound. It's just homeless, for now.

cancidas
2006-02-02, 06:40 PM
LOL!!

K9DEP
2006-02-02, 07:32 PM
The only place togo for good ab intio training is Germany cuz Lufthansa does that stuff all da time. ATP was better anyway

http://www.atpflightschool.com/

INTENSS
2006-02-03, 06:54 AM
focusing instead on expanding the business department of the college, currently well-known in the industry as the fallback major for marginal students that flunk out of Aero Sci;

Actually, most of the AeroSci flunkies I knew went to Airway Science (is that what it's still called??). However, the Aero Sci "flunkies" in my biz classes did have trouble with simple supply vs demand models. :lol:

-Rich

Matt Molnar
2006-02-03, 11:37 AM
One controversial move in that direction is to establish a campus in Doha, Qatar, which will teach Arab students who cannot or will not come to study in the USA

Thank goodness Al Qaeda will no longer have to commute to Florida for their pilot certifications.

cancidas
2006-02-03, 04:35 PM
aero science was the flying degree, you had to fly with riddle though.

aerospace studies was the flying degree where you did not have to fly with riddle, they made you picj 3 minors though.


at least that was the case when i went there. i was aero stud...