• shgrin

    Gone into NY, both places, don’t like the controllers, they are typical east coast smart a$$ attitudes and will argue with a fence post.

  • MikeWings

    The crew of this aircraft screwed up big time by getting behind the aircraft and their obligation to understand conditions at the airport prior to their arrival. They were low on fuel, then they were within a few miles of the airport and were cleared to land on 22L prior to them realizing that the crosswind component was beyond their limits (presumably) and they failed to communicate clearly to the controller. The controller only knew one element of this (their inability to land on 22L) when he gave them the standard missed approach command “fly runway heading”. This is normal and allows the local controller to sequence the aircraft safely back to the final approach. I would be interested in finding out what the result of all of this was….

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  • Gwendolyn Harper

    United sometimes lets people listen to the air traffic and pilot communicating. But only on occasion.

  • Foxstar Damaskeenus

    This didn’t sound like a big deal to me; this sounded like two professionals communicating when time was a critical factor.

    • Bob Shlafer

      Exactly, Foxstar. …….

      What we don’t know? The nature of/reason for the emergency which made “time” THE priority. And until we do ….. all others are merely speculating.

  • Guestandstuff

    I control an approach airspace for pilot training, and ive never dealt with an aircraft having to threaten to declare an emergency if they didnt get the runway they wanted. With that said, the process that usually happens is this… Pilot check ATIS while on approach to airport, controller tell pilot expect 22L, then switch to tower, tower clears aircraft to land, winds are blah @blah, gusts blah. Pilot realizes he cant land that runway with the winds the way they are, says he needs 31 right. controller resequences them to new runway. Somewhere between app control and tower the pilot decides, we should be able to make it no problem with this amount of fuel, no min fuel call necessary, no paperwork needed, everybody’s happy upstairs.. cool. In my opinion this is where the pilot messed up because like a bunch of comments above said, the pilot needs to have enough fuel for delays. I mean what happened if on his approach an aircraft blew a tire landing runway 31 R… then what. but thats all what if’s kinda situations. thats why those rules are in play though. My very biased opinion the pilot is wrong and the miscommunication came about 10 minutes ago when he entered arrivals pattern to 22L with the mindset of… ill just declare at the most critical point of flight to get what i want if this doesnt work out…….

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